So I’ve been trying this order for a while and i really like how it works, so thx for the advice. I do have a problem though in that when i do the dhc trick from Haggar to Arthur, sometimes when i try to raw tag into Doom after the dhc into Gold Armor, Doom doesn’t come out. I was wondering if there was a reason to this other than that I didn’t hold the assist button long enough or something.
That whole “Haggar DHC into Gold Armor then raw tag” thing would work with Wesker right? (can’t test it now, don’t have access to my Xbox) I’ve been experimenting with a Haggar/Arthur/Wesker team before my basement flooded, and I really like that setup because doing that leaves Arthur in the 3rd slot with Gold Armor stocked.
Is a Haggar/Wesker/Arthur is really viable against teams composed of Wolverine/Sentinel/Phoenix/Magneto and other top tier characters? We have three good assists but is it really enough against overpowered diving kicks etc.?
Been using Spencer/Doom/Haggar but I dont really like having Haggar as an anchor nor do i like using Spencer. I feel like I really am just using Spencer and Doom vs my opponent’s 3.
I’d like to do something like Doom/Haggar/ X but i dont know who to put as an anchor. I’ve been messing with ideas like Capt A/Haggar/Doom Amaterasu/Doom/Haggar and Dante/Doom/Haggar and even Doom/Haggar/Wesker, but none of these teams interest me.
TL DR. looking for the perfect anchor to complement Doom/Haggar or whether or not I should even put Haggar in a spot aside from the third.
try super skrull, he’s a pretty good anchor. He can start his loop off Haggar assist just like Doom can. Dhc trick from Haggar to Skrull works in the corner if you use Skrull torch (whiff) and do whatever combo after. Haggar assist also keeps skrull safe when going for command throws.
been using Haggar(lariat)/Felicia(slide)/Akuma(tatsu) to good effect, you have to work your ass off to get inside so I sometimes use Doom as anchor but Tatsu juggles after Felicia’s Toy Touch and allows for easy relaunches
most people tend to zone Haggar out so I just pushblock them into the corner as my means of “rushdown”, DHCing into Kitty Helper from block string or combo is great once they’re in the corner, between Felicia’s normals, Lariat assist and tatsu assist there is a good amount of pressure available
Here’s my team:
Tron / Haggar / Doom
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Good to know that DP can otg off of L3, but I think wesker gun is better for the added benefit of allowing unblockable setups, and it can otg air throws as well (maybe sj ones as well? Don’t remember)
I’ve been running Haggar (lariat) Doom (beam) Wesker (gun) lately, both Hag and Doom can use the blockable from wesker, both Hag and Wesker benefit from beam, and both Doom and Wesker can self otg off lariat. Haggar on point can easily push/scare your opponent to back into a corner, where Doom can ToD everyone (esp with lariat mixups on inbound)
Haggar is the battery, Doom burns the meter (either via DHC to switch to Doom, or his level 3), Wesker (and to some extent, doom) is one of the very best anchors in the game.
The team isn’t very meter reliant, each member can do very high damage with his combo, and are not entirely bad against phoenix (with xfc haggar or doom L3).
An extremely zoning-oriented team can beat it though, something like task with doom missile/beam assist (which is another team I use - doom hag task they have similar synergy minus the unblockable/otg), and DHC damage isn’t too spectacular unless in corner (haggar press into sphere flame or vice versa is pretty damaging)
It seems that sometimes when i do the dhc trick from Haggar to Arthur then try to raw tag to Doom he doesn’t come out. Doom does, however, come out when i let go of the assist button, but he comes out as an assist instead of being tagged in. Somehow I’m negative edging the assist button, but this only happens sometimes. Does anyone know how to prevent this and tagging in Doom 100% of the time after doing the DHC trick from Haggar to Arthur?
Been using a main team of Haggar(lariat)/Trish(low voltage)/Akuma(cheese kick :razzy:) a lot after switching out Morrigan for Akuma, and it seems to work pretty well. People haven’t really caught on to Haggar being a potential nightmare if played patiently and backed with the right assists.
Trish is annoying as hell for keepaway/rushdown mix, and Haggar DHC to Trish with 2 or more meters can do big damage.
Akuma is the assist killer and anchor, I’m sure everyone knows why.
My main team at the moment is **Thor **(Mighty Spark)/*Dormammu **(Black Hole)/Haggar ***(Double Lariat). **I’m hell bent on getting my two favorite characters (Thor/Haggar) to work together. At the moment, I’m using Black Hole assist with Dormammu. How can this assist be useful to Haggar? At the moment, I have no practical use for it what so ever. I’m afraid to even call it in a real match because I have no idea how to use it and don’t want it punished. I’m not even sure if Black Hole is the most beneficial assist for this team.
On a different note: Is Dormammu the right fit for this team? I’m also looking into Taskmaster and Doom to put in Dormammu’s place. Can anyone tell me if either of those characters make a good fit in a team of Thor/Haggar and why? Also, what assist would be most beneficial for the team?
As someone who is still new to the versus series and really trying to get better, I really look forward to anyone providing any help they can!
Use black hole to cover Haggar as he gets in to force the opponent into blocking. From there, go for mixups --> hoodlum L, hoodlum M, pipe, c.L, etc.
Task Master’s Arrows are all good. You can any of them really. straight for more chip with Thor’s spark or for Haggar to get in, parabolic to discourage jumping, and the one that rains down to force the opponent to block when they come in and take to sparks from thor for chip etc.
on point Lariat helps tasky’s zoning game, spark helps him chip and zone.
Doom’s assists are all good and he makes a good anchor.
I just started using Thor myself (I suck with him but holy shit is this guy fun to use), and I’ve been trying out Haggar/Thor/Arthur. Slow team but good assists help Thor and Haggar get in. Maybe I can replace Arthur with Trish to get a little mobility.
IMO you should put Haggar first. You can cover him with Thor’s assist and if like you can DHC glitch Haggar into Thor; without the glitch Haggar DHC into Thor does some good damage regardless. Possibly replace Dorm with a full screen projectile assist character.
Need help. I want to implement Haggar into my secondary “team”. Right now its just Chris (Gun Fire)/_____/Skrull (Orbital Grudge). I’ve always liked Haggar and someone convinced me to make throw him in. Should I place him at the assist spot with Lariat or point with the pipe? I hear Haggar works well with protecting both characters so I’m leaning towards the lariat option.
Chris has poor vertical space control so Haggar Lariat will protect him from teleports, superjumps, tridashes and dive kicks for the most part. The hard knockdown gives you tiger knee swagnum shot or df.H XFC combo. Similarly, Skrull can start his BNBs from OTGs after a Lariat hard knockdown. I’d stick with Haggar second. I think he can also DHC trick into Skrull in the corner (hoodlum launcher -> that spinning super thing into the corner to recover faster, combo)
A nice way of DHCing into Haggar for a ton of extra damage:
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I haven’t tested it but it should work with a few other characters (i.e. anyone who puts the opponent in that weird floaty state).
Unfortunately there’s way too much hitstun scaling in this particular combo to relaunch with Raccoon’s assist by the time Haggar comes in. In situations where you can use both assists to relaunch, the extra damage is a fair bit more than what’s shown.
(for the record; to relaunch with Raccoon shots, you call him just before inputting d+H. The first shot hits after the OTG, pipe bounces the opponent off the top of the second shot, and you can combo with either S or Hoodlum)
Awesome video Sprint.
This is a video i put together to help explain some synergy behind Haggar teams.
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Been running Haggar/Spencer/Hawkeye. Spencer scoops people for haggar, hawkeye covers approach, Haggar builds meter.
By the time he’s out, there’s 2 characters with amazing meter options
EDIT: Wrong thread :\
I’m getting the feeling that Haggar/Frank West are like BFFs. I started using a team of 3 Ordinary men (Haggar-Lariat / Frank West-shopping cart /Chris Redfield-Guns). Now these guys have the tools (pipe, shopping cart, guns!) to survive a zombie apocalypse. XD
I’m getting 740k meterless combos with Haggar / Frank. 670k starting from pipe meterless. Can anyone get more? I know this Haggar / Frank knowledge isn’t new, but Frank extends Haggar combos like crazy. Need a lot of work on my Frank and Chris though.