It’s less than Sagat’s, more than Ryu’s, and about the same as Rog’s (although I believe Rog’s loses a bit from juggling). So it’s not “out there” compared to other high tier characters. It’s still a good or “high tier” Ultra however.
god damn, 7 pages in 5 months? No love for the fat guy…
Looking at the Ryu and Sagat threads, it could just be a general lack of hate.
Hehehe
sounds good
I really don’t understand how anybody is defending Rufus. Seriously. He is braindead, plain and simple. Not broken, Not god mode, just straight up easy to use. I’m not claiming he’s impossible to beat or whatever so don’t go “UR JUST MAD CUZ U LOSE TO RUFUS LOLSCRUBS COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING”. OK?
If you don’t think getting 280 damage off of one move that takes up one EX stock is retarded I don’t know what to tell you. If you think spamming a bunch of safe moves with Rufus is harder than zoning with a character like Dhalsim, I don’t know what to tell you. If you don’t think giving a character with so many safe rushdown options 1150 vitality is retarded then I don’t know what to tell you. If you don’t think there is anything wrong with being able to do a quick crossup dive kick at will isn’t just plain fucked up I don’t know what to tell you. If you honestly think that a character who can do batshit crazy mixups like his divekick without even having to work for a sweep then you’re retarded. If you think having all this plus having a million ways to combo into ultra isn’t braindead then WTF is the point of arguing with an idiot like you? If you don’t think Rufus is braindead, I don’t know what to say. You’re stupid. Plain and simple. Rufus IS the definition of retarded.
Good idea so he can go right back to pressuring us with divekicks perhaps into ultra or perhaps into the corner so he can add more damage due to corner combos and get a few more ultra setups.
Well at least if you read him you get…oh wait nothing unless you’re a shoto because pretty much everything he does is safe. Oh and if you do land a big punishment his extra health helps negate that, thank the lord.
Only change he REALLY needs is 1000 health. Let him keep his ridicu-set-ups, that’s fine. Let that be his gimmick, aside from the annoying-but-not-broken-dive-kicks people can’t seem to get over. If he had average health, that’d be just fine. Still very dangerous, but not a Gief-level health dumpster.
If they took away just 100-150hp and lowered EX ss damage to about half of what it was then he’d be less retarded for sure.
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Just wondering, are you guys sore that his ultra 2 doesn’t seem to be as easy to setup?
Not at all. Especially since its been reported that this ultra is good against characters who jump away.
As ‘broken’ as everyone claims Ex Snake Strike is, jumping away and mashing a button that beats jump HK is a very strong defensive option against Rufus. Players who know how to fight Rufus will spend the entire game baiting dive kicks and Ex Messiah then jumping backwards with a jump fierce.
I’d gladly lose all the ultra set ups for something that can consistently punish back jumps, at least for certain match ups (Abel, Sagat, and Boxer come to mind).
tell you what, I’ll try this against the local Rufus players and let you know how that turns out.
rufus destroys people without an anti-air.
…because we only use lk Scissors…
dont be an idiot. bisons problems have nothing to do with a lack of safe offense, its because down back + os tech shuts most of his shit down.
only real tweak is fixing the issue with EX snake strike doing ridiculous damage, damage scaling k thanks. I think he’s fine otherwise.
James Chen talked about this months back. The best way to make J.HK> Ex Snake Strike scale more without nerfing the damage of Ex Snake Strike is to make the input of jump HK a two button press (like Chun li’s jump fierce).
Hasn’t happened, as far as we know, which is a shame. Would’ve been an interesting change.
SKill already confirmed that EX SS doing 280dmg was actually a BUG that slipped through loc testing and is fixed in SSF4…it now does 180dmg as it was supposed to originally.
I don’t want to see Rufus nerfed, but I absolutely demand that characters like Chun and Dictator get SOMETHING that allows them to deal with dive kick nonsense. Shit is fucking retarded beyond belief, especially for chun.
Kyle, I feel you on the difficulty of the Ryu match, especially with his crouch strong option select…but as you recently confirmed, Chun gets raped by Rufus damn near for free once he gets in.
Its the only match in the game that I truly fucking hate.
Link, pls.
Dictator definately doesn’t need anything against Rufus. That match is 5-5 already.
The Chun li v Rufus match up would be a lot easier for Chun li if they tightened input windows. Chun’s backdash gives Rufus fits, and if it wasn’t possible to Option select> Sweep against it, the match would be way better for Chun-li.
Just to check though… you do know that when a Rufus is spamming dive kick offense on you, all you gotta do is block the first dive kick low then immediately Ex SBK, right? That way, the Rufus has to guess 50/50 between dive kick> block, which then allows you to jump back/back dash and dive kick> do stuff, which you beat with Ex SBK. And once Rufus is out of Chun-li’s face, Chun-li has the advantage.
El Fuerte can’t Ultra Rufus because of dive kick… I’ll leave it at that…