RPGs that are worth playing

It’s a somewhat unpopular opinion, but it’s your opinion. Fuck other people trying to say your opinion is wrong. :rofl:

so you want charackter development, an amazing story in a fantastic world …

play Planescape: Torment, it’s the best thing I’ve ever played except you love a good fighting system and modern day graphics

you prolly played Fallout 2 and Baldurs Gate 2, because who didn’t …

It wasn’t complex though.

This is opinion of Xenogears is usually why I call it the Evangelian of the JRPG world. Everyone thinks it’s something out of this world and amazing for it’s so called “complex story” when it’s really not.

And yeah, the only thing about Xenogears was the battle system, even though Legend of Legaia did it better so Xenogears was just like “well…lets give them mechs too. We are japan after all”

I dunno I just dont like Jrpgs so much, they lack good atmosphere for me. Must admit most of them do have great story (especially compared to other western rpgs) but like I said, besides final fantasy 7 and chrono trigger and a few others, I dont really like them that much. For me morrowind has the best story anyway xDDD

I just finished playing Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga and I have to say it was the most palatable JRPG I have ever played. The skill system is flexible, and grinding can actually be fun as weakening enemies in order to devour them is a lot more interesting (and efficient) than just beating as many enemies as you can as fast as you can. Also, quick escape abilities and enemy repellent items make random battles a lot less annoying than they usually are since you can basically avoid/skip most of them if you just want to go from point A to point B. Plus there are many safe and easy grinding spots where you can just run in circles near a save/restore point and waste all the MP you want since restoring it is incredibly cheap, as well as purchasing skills and constantly saving to prevent wasted effort from accidental deaths.

Plus the story/characters/setting/soundtrack/etc were all pretty good. Generally JRPGs come to a point where I feel like it’s more tedious than fun and I either quit or slog through until it gets better, but I never really had that problem with DDS.

fallout 3 is rpg!?

what!?

mass effect isn’t a shooter also

never played the games but they look like a shooters to me

and out of all these you mention how many are for console

but, but hot robot chick!!!

I feel the same way about Eva, always have, but Xenogears story is still great for me, so we’ll just do an old fashioned agree to disagree on this one.

I also think the deathblow system is a step above legaia’s battle system, but that’s a personal taste thing.

Yeah, I didn’t mind sitting through the cutscenes of part I. I think the intro was quite a long watch even though I didn’t know what the hell was going on at the time.

To be honest, I dunno if I could get back into RPG gaming [in general]. I’ll just YouTube and hope there’s a compilation.

These are the cutscenes (North American version though, hardcore censorship for that T rating). Still say you should get around to it if you have a chance.

I think JRPGs would be a lot better if their battle systems and character customization and everything else that goes with it are much better.

Cause if so, then I really wouldn’t care if it took forever to progress, cause I’m having too much fun playing the actual game. I find FFXII and The Last Remnant to do this well.

However, I will note that FFXII had this problem where you’d go for ages in one go battling (due to the huge maps, huge number of creatures and sparse save points). This made it tiring to play at times, cause there’s no “rest spots” so to speak that cutscenes can sometimes give you.

I gotta agree to this too, the customization and battle systems are definitely lacking in comparison these days. Although I gotta say I’m pretty new to western style RPGs because JRPGs was all I dealt with growing up. FF12 was really good about it, I really liked the game, but again it fell into that trap again to me where I just couldn’t finish it near the end. I just gave up and didn’t feel like playing anymore, even though I liked the game.

Lost Odyssey, I really enjoyed this game a whole lot, but once again I just quit on it. Game was really really good too. I don’t even know why I stopped playing.

btw, haha you talking about no breaks??? Play some Xenogears if you haven’t already. When I was in highschool playing that, there were times when I wanted to cut the damn game off cause I had some stuff to do but I couldn’t even get a save forever.


My new thing is FPSRPG though. Fallout 3, Mass Effect, etc. So it’s not exactly western RPGs, or JRPGs, it’s whomever makes FPSRPGs, thirdpersonshoulder is fine and encouraged too. You add and customize cool stuff, and get to explore, and characters develop, and the story pacing has been very good.

As a sidenote - I know COD4 isn’t an FPSRPG or even an RPG, but it does have an RPG formula to it as far as the gameplay goes for multi, with the ranks and perks, this type of stuff is just generally appealing to everyone. It shows progression and you can stand out and make things your own, it’s satisfying.

Yeah, I know Xenogears you can go on forever at times. I hate the game.

If you want first person RPGs, go try out Arx Fatalis or Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Both are pretty cool. If you really want story pacing, I remember Bloodlines having a very strong narrative focus, whereas iirc Arx Fatalis was a more atmospheric, oppressive kind of mood. Oh, Wizardry: Tale of the FOrsaken LAnd also has a nice story AND atmosphere, but it’s quite minimalist. Writing is good though.

dq9 looks like an mmorpg

Planescape Planescape Planescape.

I cannot stress it enough.

Imagine your idea of what an RPG is now. Once you experience planescape: torment your entire perspective changes.

You see the world of rpgs differently.

Story:

You play the role of some pale, horribly scarred immortal amnesiac who looks like a walking corpse. You have to find out what happened to you, why you dont remember anything and why your mortality was stripped from you.

You can have a conversation with an npc and if you have high enough wisdom, you can deductively disprove his existence and he’ll disappear.

Some of your companions:

Morte - A Floating Skull
Dak’kon - pretty much a Samurai from another dimension (he’s a githzerei) and has a sword that bends to his will (it levels up with Dak’kon and gets stronger with him)
Ignus - a wizard who floats around and is constantly on fire (think cinder from Killer Instinct)
Fall-From-Grace - A succubus priest who’s taken a vow of chastity.

there are plenty more.

Good luck finding it though. Interplay only printed about 500,000 copies (that’s printed, not sold). Goes for a fuckton on e-bay.

beware… game has a lot of reading. It’s a mroe dialogue focused game than any RPG i’ve played.

I’m interested in that vampire one(googled and wiki’d), I’ll have to check to see if it’s available on steam, in a couple days, can’t now.

SNES Chrono Trigger? Or PSX Chrono Trigger? I’m going to make an attempt to actually finish the game this time and I’d like to know which version is “better”

All the games I would recommend have already been mentioned, but a word of warning about Planescape:

Though it is one of my favorite RPGs, be aware that the ending is unfinished;

due to time limit constraints from the publisher, the developers were forced to rush the last portion of the game.

This obviously affected many of its facets (bugs, scenario variety etc.), but the worst part is that the ending was left unfinished;

Basically, there were going to be 3 different endings, depending on your alignment at games end (good, neutral or evil). Due to said release date constraints however, only 1 FMV was able to be completed, which results in you basically seeing differently truncated sequences of the same ending no matter how you conclude the game.

Also, some planned character development was cut, leaving some of the NPCs in your party less fleshed out than others.

So its a testament to this games quality that despite all of that, its still one of my fav computer games ever,regardless of genre, and that I like it enough to even give a shit about this kind of stuff.

I mean, how can you not admire a game with music such as :

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Also, fuck you guys for being to young to remember Ultima.

Play every one from part 4 (1987) onward, this is the only game that, as a series, I find to be superior to Planescape.

Edit: Also note that, in terms of mechanics, Planescape sucks ass: combat is horrible, spells are buggy, difficulty is uneven.

damn with the .hack hate

man i know that .hack isnt that great but i love the fuck out of that franchise and the whole universe in general

though i gotta admit GU was kinda bad and a joke, but even then i still liked playin it

I remember Ultima, I’ve just never played it. Same with Might & Magic.

Also, I find it quite unfair that you’re saying the Ultima series is superior to the Planescape single game. :lol: