well now that i know about balrogs glitch i guess i wont be doing the first attack after he tries to ex. but if i remember right drill armor breaks anyway so there shouldnt be a problem.
Thanks for the answer. I will start to try a few different moves then to see what works and when. And yes as you can tell I am new to SF and only fighter I’ve played before is Smash bros which is totally different compared to SF. Need to do a few more matches against that C.Viper to see what works 
I mained Fei in HDR, so Rose is totally different for me. I find myself being a lot more defensive with here. Trying to keep the enemy out and reacting to mistakes. Only offense I do is random jump-in, cross-up, slide to throw, slow soulspark to attack etc. She doesnt have the moves to get in hard and quickly like Fei does.
Her soul drill can surprise some, then again, its not that safe and quite slow on startup.
taken directly from the Boxer thread:
In short, it has been discovered that EX Special Moves with super armour properties (i.e. all of Rog’s EX Punch Specials) can be immediately canceled into either:
- A second EX Special (EX Headbutt)
- Super
- Ultra.
The “glitch” is that the 1st EX move does not cost any EX meter after performing the cancel!
However 2nd move which you canceled into will still consume your EX / Super / Ultra meter as normal.
What It Appears To Be:
Rog performing a SA/FA and then immediately canceling into Ultra. This was everyone’s initial thought as no EX bar was being consumed and the startup animations are very similar.
What It Really Is:
- Rog performing an EX special (most likely a rush punch)
- Next, the hit is absorbed (due to the armour properties of the EX move. Notice that the hit being absorbed is a single, non-armour breaking hit, usually a fireball).
- Immediately following, the Ultra is performed (canceling the startup frames of the EX move)
IF A HIT IS NOT ABSORBED, THEN ONLY THE EX SPECIAL COMES OUT (THE ULTRA DOES NOT EXECUTE!).
What It Is Not:
- It is not canceling the hit of the EX special into the Ultra (ala “super” cancels). Watch the video again if this is unclear for you.
- It is not canceling the “hit absorb” from doing a FA/SA into an Ultra.
Therefore you must absorb a non-armor breaking hit from an EX Rush Punch (or any other EX special with armor) in
order to cancel into an Ultra!
There’s videos about it in the Boxer thread you guy’s should visit that thread. Know your enemy thats one of the key points to victory.
Funny you took my post in here … I was just about to share that as I have been a Rog user since day 1 but am now looking to main Rose for the console version.
The timing of the EX cancel glitch you are referring to is VERY tight. As Rog, the hit absorb from the armor has to happen BEFORE Rog is moving forward with the rush punch. In other words, it has to happen very early. In all practicality, you will not see this ever in a real match IMO, never mind in an online match where the lag is a factor too (ever notice how 1 frame links online are almost impossible to hit??)
Fighting Rog with Rose is a pain in the ass because of her lack of reversal type of move (other than super/ultra) to get Boxer off. Especially once Rog has Rose in the corner … it can be a nightmare to get out.
Anyways, I’m looking to share some of the stuff I have found out with Rose. Maybe even do some forum clean up too. There is a lot of good info across the 3 sticky threads but you really have to dig through them to find anything.
Yea I was wondering if all the info gathered could be all in the OP in the 3 sticky threads cause it’s kinda hard to get stuff going post by post x_x
I usually play well against shotos, but I have problems dealing with ken’s SRK.* It seems as though everytime I try to poke, the poke never comes out and I eat srk from a ken.* It’s gotten to the point where usually I just bait and punish instead of trying to win a poke war.* What should I do?
Exactly what you’re doing, until you fight smart people that know not to randomly shoryu.
So , I jsut decided I wanna run rose as my secondary… How exactly do you play rose. Ill prolly skim this thread on and on to see whats up.
But I do ask the best rose player on PS3… hit me up , I wanna discuss some rose shit with ya.
Seems like most playing her play her in a turtle style then go into offensive when the opportunity presents itself.
IMO you guy’s should ask RaginStormX to updtate all the info on the thread to the first page. That way we dont have to scroll througth 10 pages to find info on 1 matcup.
So i went to a tourney yesterday, some decent peoplei could have gotten top 3 but i lost to a shitty Blanka because i dint know how to deal with ball. Its very silly even a dumbass can advante of his EX ball. Rose has such slow startup that he can use EX ball to go thru your fireball s on reaction thereby cripling your fireball game. I know the slide is punishible on block that i took advantege of, however the balls i could not punish on block because he jsut did them on reaction to my fireball’s. Withougth Ultra she really cant punish blanka balls on block. In reality its an uphill battle beacuse the Blanka player doest need to think to much to beat Rose. If he gets a knockdown forget it crossups into bite or combo into ball, man i gotta learn waht beats ball and how to to cripple his ball game ever notice how the raimbow ball can be the most ambigous crossup?
Anyways, it’s only his EX balls that can go through fireballs. I guess just be patient against Blanka.
EDIT: Oh you already mentioned the Ultra blanka balls. I cant read.
Jabs beat balls.
I’ve beaten ball with .umpinc back mk ONCE out of a billion tries and drill TRADES:sad: I need to figure this out as well, he can just spam them cuz u can’t beat or punish them>:annoy: I’ll find a way soon enough, I’ll keep you guys posted on any finds.
Not sure how to against a REALLY good Blanka player but I try to walk him down after I block a ball. Eventually he’ll have to try something new other than doing Ball cause I’ll just slowly advance forward till he’s close to the corner for me to get in.
Once I’m in though still not an awesome battle haha
yea, Blanka is still giving me all kinds of fits. Recently been coming up against a few good Vegas as well. How do you handle him? I have no idea what to do against all those wall jumping specials he does. Half they time I can’t even block them.
After a blocked ball, if you don’t have bar for super/ultra, dash forward then c.mp is a decent option to pressure him and not let him breathe.
Other than that you can try to catch a ball with an ex soul throw, i don’t know how hard that is in a real match tho, but i know it’s definitely possible if you use the lenient input windows.
I play Rose very aggressively. I have been playing as Rose online on a few other games over Kaillera and GGPO for a few years now, and I think part of the inspiration for that type of playstyle came from the way that the character was presented in going after Dictator alone and stuff like that. So, yeah, I rush pretty much everyone down. Strategy comes into play only if they can get past such a desperate fighter.
This is how I’ve been playing her since dropping Viper. It’s very hard to adjust to playing turtle style since I’m so used to playing a rushdown type character. I really don’t see how I can rushdown with her w/o command overhead and not so great normals so I usually just try to go for a cross-up>combo or if possible tick throw the living hell out of my opponent.
You answered your own question:rofl:
Well fuck that’s no fun.
Edit:…Well at least I’m doing it right.