Rose SSFIV 2012: Apology Edition Changes

Zenfluence · August 30, 2011, 2:04am

“Needy” huh? Someones all hissy about Vega…keep your passive negativity to yourself.

Sabin · August 30, 2011, 2:59am

spiffyg · August 30, 2011, 3:06am

New Soul Piede range:

jason87 · August 30, 2011, 3:11am

@spiffyg
I actually saw that on the stream but it was hard to judge considering the bison walked well withing st. rh range. I’d rather test it in the lab myself. What’s more important about the move to me is whether it’ll cover the gap Rose has in the AA department (that annoying j. mk range that Gief has that beats EVERYTHING rose has to offer. and If you try to walk forward cr. fierce, he just empty jumps into a SPD).

I hoping this is not everything. Plz be only the begining version alpha.

Bluefalcon · August 30, 2011, 3:13am

new lol
just play vanilla and u can see the “new” range too^^

sksksksksk222 · August 30, 2011, 3:20am

Rose only showed up once out of all the 6 location test videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdR09erZTdg&feature=player_embedded - 0:24:40

Azn_Boy · August 30, 2011, 3:21am

Well to be honest, the list of changes for Rose weren’t all that interesting lol. I’m not surprised.

spiffyg · August 30, 2011, 5:32am

Bison was walking forward, but to me it seems like that is a situation in which Piede would have whiffed in Super and AE.

Trike · August 30, 2011, 6:08am

The ultra can only be used once and will be safejumped by really good players. I had this happen to me against WolfKrone in a tournament. EX spiral on the other hand, you can use more than once in a round, will go through meaty fireballs if fully invincible, and wouldn’t garner people whining about how broken it is like U2 would. I’d rather have U1 buffed to be really good as opposed to U2 reverted to Super status, honestly.

In fact, I still get whined at over Rose. It’s amazing how so many people can get upset over a low-mid tier character.

cerberusfx · August 30, 2011, 7:16am

Lol I would prefer having a character that has solid moves that I can used anytime during the match and crap ultras then depending on a ultra that I can use once or twice during 1 round. I dont see how can someone can wish for a band-aid like ultra than fixing a characters moves in the 1st place.

THEFURY215 · August 30, 2011, 7:21am

^

Drakonvlast · August 30, 2011, 7:27am

only my mate whines at my Rose, because of my “Fireball spam”

Trike · August 30, 2011, 7:44am

I get all sorts of complaints. Slide needs to be less safe, soul spiral needs more recovery, soul spiral’s armor breaking needs to be taken away, soul sparks need to have smaller hitboxes, U2 is still too good, crouching fierce shouldn’t be able to hit everything out of the air, her normals go too far, etc.

cerberusfx · August 30, 2011, 7:55am

honestly which sane person would want Rose to have buffs ??? :>

/sarcasm

Paolochun · August 30, 2011, 9:39am

Mid-low tiers netting the complaints? For me, that would personally be sim and T Hawk and of course Blanka. :annoy: working on the matchups though…

As a Rose, I’ve been gathering the salt over how OP slide to throw (mostly the throw range) is, and of course I’ve already gotten the “If I fucking see that fucking backdash one more time…”

And at U1’s supposedly broken outprioritizing powers. Well durrrr, maybe you shouldn’t jump so early or stick out unsafe shit in the first place. :lol:

Rose · August 30, 2011, 11:16am

I’ve gotten whined at for fucking ever.

and I doubt it will ever change; whether it be by terribad players who don’t know the match up or good players that don’t know the match up.

There aren’t many people that know the match up not the well.

SylHar · August 30, 2011, 11:48am

hi.
here’s a copy of the message I just posted on the unity forum:

Hi.
With all the discussion here, I tough that I needed to post my comment, on the only character that I know enough about : rose.
I pretty disappointed with the change from 2012. In ae, like all rose player, I was expecting a buff ( to a middle level character). She’s been nerfed hard. Now only some of the change will be reverted, so there no way she can be better than in ssf4, so that meens mid-low in the tier list, at best.
Here’s few thing that she need ( if she got all of them, she may become really powerful, but not imho overpowered):

an overhead: she’s one of the few character that didn’t have that and her mix up really suffer from that. people only turtle again her. Soul piede already looks like an overhead, and it’s a slow start-up so it won’t be too powerful

a reversal: let’s face it all character in the half-up tier list have some reversal ( some not perfect) rose used to have u2. Without it, she need something. if Ex-reflect were invincible at start up ( 6-7 frame) that would be great. With the need of an ex bar, plus the impossibility to combo after it and a crappy hitbox, her wake up would still be low. plus that would give her a little help in the reflect war.

some fancy combo: she’s the character with the lowest damage in the game. She need a few way to do a little more damage. hp reflect to ex soul throw mid screen has been suggested ( at with hp reflect so hard to combo into that not much) Something that I would love to see: that hp reflect can be comboed into after a spiral fadc ( with strict timing) cmp x spiral fadc hp reflect, ex soul throw will look gorgeous !
Here’s my ideas
thanks for reading

Majinhurricane · August 30, 2011, 12:41pm

Best is when Air said to me

"I don’t understand this ultra 1 so bullshit

Rose · August 30, 2011, 12:49pm

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree with any of the listed buffs.

I agree with reversal and maybe comboability, but those ideas aren’t very good ideas.

Majinhurricane · August 30, 2011, 12:52pm

you know what I find cool. Is i was testing it against my friends rufus today and i could at the right time hp reflect into regular soul throw if he tried a dive kick, mid screen.