They weren’t nerfed enough, imo!!! Take away their command grabs please!!!
Me. I hope capcom has something else for her if not she might be in trouble.
We should start a campaign to let capcom know that we want ex spiral to be invincible, the move cost a bar to perform, startup is relatively slow so it can easily be safe jumped, and it’s unsafe if blocked.
Yun and Yang, even with said nerfs, will still be good characters… I’m just glad we won’t be seeing as many Yuns. I’m thinking that so far most of these nerfs and buffs balance out the game nicely. But that’s just conjecture. Obviously I can’t know for sure without playing the game. Even still, Rose will be B tier at best.
I’m not worried at all that Rose is shafted; I can tell she’s either going to mid or high tier (depending on how her Ultra actually works; it’s the owner of the weirdest properties in the game).
Besides her, problem match ups did get nerfed - she does good against the buffed grapplers now (she gains so much meter off fireball again and her anti-throw move is now one of the best normals in the game in terms of properties and ability to counter hit and now combos of a regular hit easy), but of course she still has those match ups that are just dumb like Bison is still gonna be fairly the same.
All it comes down now to is what exactly they did to her Soul Satellite. It can either break her or keep her to where she’s always been >.>
it may turn out to be okay, but it’s just see everyone else’s changes makes me think he’s getting underbuffed.
I’m not really sure either. I don’t play these other characters so I don’t know how crucial to their gameplay some of these buffs are… I guess we have to wait and see!
I think she may come to be known as the poke/normal queen with the new piede and c.st.mk…
The Cody MU is harder in AE 2012. His buffs are huge!
Better Walk Speed = better throw Game (he has one of the better grab ranges), Dust on Wake Up double hit (no FADC) and you can special/FADC cancel the sand into U1 damn Cody xD
Agreed, Yang seems to be really badly nerfed!! Certainly too much.
But let’s get back to Rose… I am a little disapointed for what 's she got comparing to some other characters such as Cody& dudley or also juri or ibuki
edit: Hakan futur top tiers ??
Does anyone else feel that compared to all the other low/mid tier characters that Rose has gotten less buffs, and even worse, less useful buffs?
Rose deserves better, she has Soul Power for heaven’s sake.
Compared to the low/mids yes.Why got DJ a dmg buff? His Kicks deal +10 dmg now (90, 110, 130) I want that for rose too!
Rose’s buffs do come off as a bit bland now after seeing all the buffs. She needs that EX drill buff unless U2 is in its super form again. If we have Super U2, then I don’t care about anything else. Rose is back bitches if that’s the case.
However, they still have the possibility to tweak Rose after the testing. So I believe nothing is written in stone yet.
Stop sayn, “Gimme back Rose Super U2”, I dont want this shit back! Just adjust the Orb Hitbox. Don’t wanna hear the crying again “Rose is broken”…
Did I say that? -No. I’m just saying, and it’s a fact that if Rose got her invincibility back then she will be up there with the rest of the “more” buffed characters.
You can’t forget that Rose is still an open target and free on wake up as long as she doesn’t have a proper reversal. And it seems like they still haven’t changed her in that department. But then again, things could still change arter the testing.
Pretty much. Anyone who has played Rose for any extended amount of time will know that getting raped on wake-up was her biggest glaring weakness. U2 “fixed” this to some degree and yet she was still “B tier” at best in Super. AE pretty much put her back to Vanilla status IMO.
It would be interesting to see Capcom at least try an EX Spiral increased invul tweak during testing. At least invul to physical attacks if they are worried that about peeps using it to blow thru projectiles.
That’s what I want too. Tweak EX Spiral, make it invul to physical attacks or both physical attacks and fireballs and test it on the upcoming testing event. If it’s too much, then work from there. Rose needs something in the reversal department or she will stay pretty much the same as she is now - vulnerable.
I agree; besides, One said something along the lines of continuing to balance their fighting games in the future.
If an EX Drill buff is too much (which it won’t be) they could still take it out in a future update.
It would still be 13 frames of start-up. Most characters could easily meaty that with a variety of moves and be safe. Useful certainly and I highly encourage it but it wouldn’t really shift her defense too far.
If they aren’t going to give U2 back (and quite frankly I hope they don’t, it really was kinda silly) I hope they enhance her zoning with better recovery/startup on sparks, invincibility on basic soul throws and other small normal tweaks like vanilla sweep maybe. It just seems like they are being way too cautious with Rose. I mean, look at Juri’s new buffs.
everyone worrying their butts off.
Take a chill pill.
i just think it’s annoying have your ex drill randomly lose to focus attacks and normals.
my ex drill lost to yun ex rush punch at sbo quals when we did it at the same time.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
anyway, these buffs really dont mean much. i think theyre shit seeing some of the stuff other chars got lol