I’m pretty sure she has the old u2 back from super without inv. frames cuz nearly every character got the super stuff back.
They didnt mention Rose’s U2 hitbox back,
andy they didnt mention it from super to ae ^^
There is bound to be changes they wont announce, sorta like what they did with AE. They never said they changed u2 hit boxes and we found out they are smaller.
So we can expect some changes to stuff and possible if we can get rose players to give some feedback on her at the loc tests, we might get more fixes. And pleae dont just beg for U2 super again, she can uses some other buffs then a band aid fix.
she didn’t completely get ultra 2 back, it had a 4 frame startup before, now it is 5. It had instant block, which i don’t think we’ll get back, and it had invincibility, which I don’t think we’ll get back.
In Super U2 is a 5Frame Ultra. 1+4 means 5 Frames.
It really depends on if they make U2 hittable or not. I haven’t messed with AE that much (so… so salty), but I think the “vulnerable” frames are the two frames they added.Taking them away make make the move invincible to start again. That’s what I’m praying. At the very least, it allow for easier times using it as anti air, mixups, and combos.
C.SMK change is neat. However, if you were using it properly (in tick throw setups), you were getting counter hits all the time anyway, so the combos are nothing new. The coolest thing is to be able to plink C.MP and C.Jab and get something reliably.
The most asked for change besides bringing U2 back was to make EX Soul Spiral invincible. They did not do this.
A change that would have brought a lot of excitement to the character would be to make U1 juggable. They didn’t do that, either.
So Sad.
As far as Piede? Having it back is neat. Esp w/ juggable soul throws. Counter Hitting with it or hitting out of the air is a free juggle.
AE Soul Piede vs Vanilla (on bottom) differences in hit boxes as well as frame advantage.
Soul Piety 100 200 60 - 11 2 21 -5 -1
Soul Piede 100 200 60- 11 2 17 -1 +3
They should forget about buffing U2 at all.
Instead, they should focus on improving U1 and her EX drill.
but i miss my free wakeup 
Learn to block. AE improved my blocking a lot!
I like her u2 anyway, i just hope the hitbox was changed back to super^^
I don’t think the 2 extra frames is what caused Rose to be vulnerable on activation. She used to be invincible on the 4 activation frames, then free to do anything immediately after. The 4 frames are vulnerable now, and on top of that, they added 2 frames before the orbs became active where she is also vulnerable.
So in the new update, I believe Rose will still be vulnerable during activation (4 frames), but orbs will go back to starting faster (and hopefully she can move right after also). I’m fine with this, basically they over-nerfed U2 before, and now are just taking half a step back. This will also probably get rid of the weird ‘Rose got hit, but orbs stayed’ thing that can happen in AE.
Overall I’m pretty happy with the changes. I do still hope that they extend the invincible frames on ex spiral… its not like the move isn’t ridiculously easy to safe jump/poke anyway. It seems like they are really afraid of changing anything big with Rose (jugglable U1 for example) like she’ll suddenly turn oh no higher than low-mid tier or something. At this point her play will pretty much be exactly the same, but with a few new combos.
So it came out 4 frames faster, and was 4 frames safer on block AND hit AND had a larger hitbox? That’s fantastic!
The developer blog does say “… Adjusted to strike similar to the performance of 4” so it probably won’t be exactly the same as it used to be. But a bigger hitbox and quicker startup is all we need to be able to punish A LOT more from midscreen. I’m happy. 
Here’s to hoping nothing is final. Maybe capcom justs wants rose around here on the tier list and not much higher.
It isn’t faster, 11(Startup) 2(Activ) 17(Recovery) -1(Block) +3(Hit)
Well this is the first test they’ve done for these characters, i’m sure they’ll get more changes.
Jep! Nerfbat Rape for Rose at the end! :B
I’m with the crowd that thinks these changes blow.
I never wanna see u1 trade with ryu’s j.hk
So any rose players going to the loc tests that were announced? id love to hear about some hands on exp with these changes.
She’ll probably get a buff where her light attacks have a little more hit stun and something like getting her vanilla sweep back and then they’ll give her a 10 point damage boost on her spirals.
I’m happy u2 is 5 frames, more comboablitly
lets all message ono and say: “put 13 frames of invincibility on rose’s EX spiral !” 