This would be useful if missing it (which you are going to do a lot) doesnt get you into much trouble. But I doubt so. It then would be a bet of 2 EX. But now you are betting a bit more I think.
I think it funny as hell this is found out as sf4 is on its way out the door. After about a year of playing and testing this comes out at the very end lol.
It may or may not be worth it to test setups using sweep or soul throw. A setup using MP-Spark instead of LP-Spark would be more ideal, so that the opponent couldn’t backdash and take the spark hit in the air. The distance doesn’t really matter, the most important component is timing the flash on the right frame.
The only setup with Medium Spark that seems to work is a back throw out of the corner, where she throws the opponent further away so that you can immediately use Medium Spark and FADC.
So is this an issue of spacing also? If it is, then why couldn’t I back throw, ex SS fadc ultra? Wouldn’t this be a safer option? If the spark is blocked and I Ultra…wont this allow me to be much further than if I just sparked?
I take back my statement about MP Spark, it doesn’t seem to work.
@Kail: No, you won’t be able to use EX Spark at all. There are two absolute requirements I look for when I am doing this;
- Regardless of the Ultra, the Spark MUST be overlapping your opponent and must connect with the opponent on the 1st frame that they get off the ground.
- Rose must be completely mobile at the time of the wake up and activate Ultra on the exact frame that the fireball will connect with the opponent.
Having said that, you would assume that you must Back Throw, and immediately launch a Spark and FADC as fast as you can so you can meet requirement 2. LP Spark and EX Spark have the quickest start up so they are ideal for this setup, but if you Back Throw and EX Spark right away, the EX Spark won’t even be close to touching your opponent as it is much too fast, so you can’t pull this off with EX Spark.
Here’s a nice combo video elaborating on unblockable ultra set-ups for certain characters. [media=youtube]V7vPT_VcMKg[/media]
I personally find the utilization wrong in a tournament setting, and actually expect them to be banned from use in competition.
I would highly doubt it being banned.
Edit: I did just realize how much fun this will be with Rose’s U2 though. Throw, Spark FADC U2 (Spark Hits during flash frame) sHP (Orb 1 hits) sHP (Orb 1 hits) sHP xx Spark FADC sHP xx Spiral?
I dont condone crap like that. Never see me even attempt it. Hope they fix it/patch it.
I tested it just to see how likely it is to perform. Took me maybe 20 tries, and the time it worked, I wasn’t really trying. I imagine it’s something that could be practiced to perfection, though. Just another “1 frame link”
It’s not really that good. Anyone that knows about it can [media=youtube]XSxTKIPHPO0#t=50s[/media] (< vid link) and there Rose goes wasting two bars of super and an ultra stock for nothing. It’s also not good for Ken or Sagat. The only character that really benefits from this is Seth. You can react to her FADC’ing the spark, it’s easy to react to. The only way this could be good is if you fake it to bait an escape attempt which is extremely risky and costly since you have to commit to it and you’re gambling with meter, shitty mixup yo.
That’s cool if you wanna be all “honorable” and shit just because it’s a glitch, but it’s really not that big of a deal so w/e, lol.
I think it is possible to land it with EX spark, with the throw coming out of the corner. I have landed the spark/ultra too early and too late, but not in the 1 frame sweet spot with EX.
Morality of abusing the glitch aside, it’s just a novelty. Not worth practicing or incorporating in any real fights.
If they went through the trouble of removing something as insignificant as the self-reflect thing Rose could do before championship mode, I’m sure they’ll take this out too.
Ye, that’s a shame really, wonder what Maj would have done with that in his TACV 
I know I’m late to the party on the thread, but thanks for making that video, Acku. Some stuff in there I didn’t even know was possible. Really need to work on my 1-frame links >_<
I have also taken the liberty to make my very own Rose Combo Vid yay
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I had so much fun making combos, even though it’s pretty repetitive as said in the description of the vid…
I really liked your combo video. It wasn’t repetitive at all. You’re pretty creative with your combos and even went through the trouble of showing unblockable ultra set-ups. Props to you.
Cool video, dude! I hope the SSFIV version is even more impressive.
That’s one awesome vid, I didn’t even know her FADC could be used to absorb an EX fireball.
Woah you can do that to a ryu one? I had it down with dhalsim :L. Love to see an Akuma red fireball one.