about all the people i play against can rc 80-90% of the time they attempt it…
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*Originally posted by Mummy-B *
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he can’t win against real players.*
HA HA HA HA HA, that’s not true at all quite the contrary I don’t know who you are or who you play. Rock can beat a “REAL” player ever heard of Arturo Sanchez I played his 2 months ago in Charlotte N.C. I talked to him about my Counter strats against RC’s he said "Yeah…you can counter Roll Cancels,…that should be “Nuff Said”. I played him in the tourney he won the first match I won the second and we had a VERY close third…so take it for what you want Rock can win, if you can’t get around someones strats with ??? charater then YOU can’t…I repeat YOU can’t don’t be ignorant and say he can’t it’s that attitude that makes gamers wanna quit playin Rock because it’s difficult and yes I also have been playin Rock since Beta “I kinda wish his Shine Knuckle was still Hyper Viper Beam like…lol!!!”, believe me when I tell you it’s just a game every one has holes fill that hole with a crack counter…“Well Arturo has hardly any holes in his offense…but there are holes…lol!” He’s coming down on 7/26 to Charlotte again and I hope I can put on another good show!! Laterz
Oh yeah I see your from Hawaii so I’ll let you know if you don’t already Arturo is like damn near the top in CvS2 he is like top 10 or something!!! So I think he qualifies as a “Real Player”!
I know who Arturo is. I played Arturo before. He stayed at my apartment with Ricky, Desmond, and Phi and we all had some fun casuals.
I am from Okinawa, Japan. I am in Hawaii for medical treatment.
Rock doesn’t win in tourney settings. Ask Art who he uses to win tournaments. I’ll put down a hundred bucks his team doesn’t have Rock in it.
Check the brackets for Evo. No Rocks. I think I can count the Rocks on my two hands in pool play.
That is all.
Rock sucks.
Well, no, he’s decent (if you’re japanese anyway,) but he’s too hard to win with.
Mummy-B is the fucking truth. Sup bro, I hope you’re gonna make a full recovery out there in Hawaii.
exodus don’t get too excited, i was messing around with you in tourney when we played. You don’t remember how I let you kill me 2nd game by standing there and taunting? And I picked Yun. -_-
hey if this doesnt work as some claim, then is tehre anything that will?
Thanks. Hope you, Ricky and rest of the crew are doing good, getting that platter and shit. Ricky is all over the place winning money from all kinds of games, jeebus. he’s a machine
And :lol: that shit is harsh.
Hey it’s cool to know that some of the top players check these threads!!!
Hey man what’s up Sabin, hmmmm if I can remember correctly you did have Yun but he was your last character Rock was my second, and yes you taunted me to end your match…but bro you had like 13% health left. Hey man I ain’t tryin to say nothin besides Rock can win, and yes I think my Rock is pretty solid, but everyone has holes in their offense. I actually can’t wait to play you again I believe we had the best matches at that last tourney, that’s all I want is good close fights, and believe me we probably will, if you wanna try and shut me down I invite you to try it won’t be that easy…but you probably will win because of your past experience all I wanna do is show of to my peeps and play you well. I’ll see you at Bursts house before the Charlotte tourney I think I might level up some…hah ha ha !
P.S. was that last team you played one of your better ones??
Rock is the MAN!!!
i was at that tourny and i saw rock kickin major ass. his shit is so pretty and he was owning up on some counters.
but i saw that match and art taunted then lost a close match because i think he wanted to beat exodus bad with a good team but that match was hella close and geese owned up on cammy for real if he wasnt trying that sweep raging storm and went for the bb combo it might of killed off cammy. but for real though art is good as shit and if rock can stand up well(not sagat well)than he has some potential.
I think you’re totally missing the point he is trying to make.
No I totally got the point, and as a matter of fact it matters not to me. Rock is the best character in CvS2 in MY opinion.
Sword to a gunfight.
Just FYI, I wasn’t quoting your post. I have no idea why you thought I was talking to you. I’m not being an asshole or anything, I really mean that I have no idea why you thought that post was directed at you particularly.
sorry bout that i am a newbie
but really this is a rock thread and i thought there would be some rock supporters. I really think that he is at the top of the middle tier so to speak and in a good enough players hand he can beat a lot of top tier teams.
if u devote enough time, rock can kick ass. i am sorry for not being able to pick 3 sagats to have a perfect team remember when that japanese guy used yun, he beat the shit out of people and yun got more fucked over than rock.
the things rock doesnt have are:
good roll
better pokes
good recovery on hardedge and dunk, and shift, jab rising tackle
higher priority wake up
has only four air attacks and he cant get past a good sagat turtle
i dont see that many bad match ups for rock, compared to say kyo with his shit supers and his obvious mind game but kyo is “better” than rock cuz not enought people use rock. imo rock is one of the top 10 best player.
any groove rock counters a-sak imo c. mp owns cross ups, id like to see sagat hold his own against k-chun. s.rh. c.rh.
the only reason cammy is “better” than rock is because of her dp and pokes but her supers are shit too, blanka cant stop a rushdown very well. anyway this is my opinion, and rock is good but the hill gets steeper with him but then again how much fun do u have sitting there with sagat waiting for a jump in or a c.fierce range. fuck that atleast ill lose with the best character design in the game. hands down top tier. 
Yun also has three really really really good RCs. The lunge punch, tbe pimp slap step, and the command grab. Along with a pretty god priority command jump in that can change jump trajectory for mind games and a chain combo, with a 6000+ simple as hell CC, he’s actually not that bad off in A Groove.
But it mostly had to do with no one knowing how to play against him, that’s was really what Ken’s advantage was.
No way. Kyo can deal more damage at any point in time in a match than Rock ever could, and has more priority on his moves, AND has a move with autoguard.
You haven’t seen a Japanese Kyo. There is no Rock that matches a top tier Kyo. It’s not even close.
A Sak owns a bunch of non top tier people. And as far as Cammy goes… Her supers are shit? 
oh i forgot 
rock has no cross-up
bout your kyo being able to deal more damage at any time is kinda going alittle too far but i understand.
anyway, there arent that many ways to get supers in with kyo if u dont have a-groove or c-groove cornering the opp. while u can trip super, evac super, j. hardedge bait shine knuck, jab short mk shine knuck aside from all the things u can do from a evac in the corner with rock. rock has higher priority with j. rh and s. rh, rock stuffs rc with his counters. d.reppuken rc is king.
ive played agaisnt a really good kyo but most of it was j. down fierce, sj. down fierce and his dp is not invincible. i guess until someone uses rock in a tourney and wins, then rock has to stay that big secret.
ya, cammy is just one big s. roundhouse, thats it. her moves get dp ed more and more now that the game is older and her level one anything sucks ex. for vertical super gainst gaurd crush or chip to death which ken can do better anyway.
sorry for not being very clear with grammer and all on the last post.
ummm… keep rockin’ baby.?!? :wtf:
:eek:
Maybe Cammy’s supers suck if your Cammy cannot land a single close fierce in the whole match. Who the hell tries to psychic DP a Cammy?! That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Well Rock having a corner trap was the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard but this comes close.
If any Kyo you see doesn’t do anything from a cr lk, it’s a scrub Kyo and is like sucking and stuff. Because that leads to easy supers, easy dizzy, and things like that.
The problem with Rock’s supers is that it’s really really easy to land a level 3 if your opponent has not played many Rocks. So you may have success with him once or twice, but it doesn’t take that much before he figures out that mashing jab stops all rage run/throw things.
IMO a rock is only as good as the mind controlling it
if you can really play superb mind games and not get pushed out and out turtled by sagat type charac(tiers) then i guess its justifiable using rock but if u gonna wanna out speed or out pioritse them its way out of the question
there’s no way a rock would win in top level play cos people have seen all the rock tricks before
The best B&B Rock’s got is two lights link a crouch mk into a hard edge. That doesn’t even connect all the time, especially from a jump in if you’re not close enough, so to be safe I’d say <insert jump in> -> c.mk XX fp Hard Edge is the one combo that gaurantees connection.
Kyo is like… fuck. Cross up lk, medium, medium, aragami three hit chain. Cross up, fierce, fierce chain. Anything jump in, two shorts, double kick juggle time. Far stand fk, buffer any level flame super. Anything that links or buffers is like a free combo. It’s unreal. In the time that Rock builds meter to land a super, Kyo’s done enough damage to match the super that Rock would land AND he’s built up the meter for the super. And yeah, Kyo’s DP is no Shoto DP, but it’s a better wake up and anti-air than anything Rock has outside of stand fk (you can’t wake up with that anyway).
And the hitbox on his cross up is unreal. On top of that, the double fist-fuck (d+fp) has priority like like a platinum frequent flyer. Short hopping with that move is so fucked that it’s stupid.
anyway thats kyo for you.
im just trying to justify my character u dont have to fucken shit your pants.
so what do u do 'gainst cammy then? let her c.mk, standing whatever you all day? and who the fuck said anything bout physic dp? reaction thats all it is, mr top tier. my cammy cant land shit cuz i dont use cammy. and her tired ass moves. go cbs ur local tourneys and come back and tell me how u did.
come on. who doesnt have faults? if i ever played u, id evac toss ur ass, u can jab all u want but the point of using the shift is surprise/mix-up. keep jabbing buddy. ever gotten evac’ed after a dash? c.short block evac. 
who should i use then? kyo’s j.rh is horrible, cbs? a-sak, a-bison? is that it? vega and balrog? im running out of top tiers here…
putting all bullshit aside. i know my character’s faults but i choose to use rock cuz i can see potential and i use it.
and all that kyo stuff from mummy-b… ya ive seen it but kyo has some faults too maybe not as bad as rock but see, u can have fun with kyo, enjoy the game and shit ya know, well i choose to enjoy it with rock and i can list some bad ass shit with rock cuz he has it. i dont understand how rock can be THAT bad if i can win with him. maybe ill c-groove sagat, rock, kyo to the top of evo, trade in my n-groove…