Your either a Libertarian or an authoritarian.
Your either for human freedom and decentralized power or your not.
They’re the same sides of a coin, just to different degrees.
Government has killed over 262 million people in the last 120 years.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
There are legitimate reasons to limit government’s power.
Example:China’s government,Iran’s government,North Korea’s government,and Cuba’s government
Yeah, any government can work as long as the leader or leaders are not corrupt, but the more concentrated the power in one or few individuals, the more likely that individual or individuals will be corrupted.
In a ideal world or close to it, there would be no government or very little government, which is anarchy or close to it, but that would require people to have pure hearts or have hearts that are very close to pure for it to work.
So, in the end, the key is balance.
Come on, guys, it’s not just black and white, there are also infinite shades of grey.
3SJ is talking about Libertarianism, not Liberalism.
Wtf?
You know that Rubio’s entire appeal is that he’s the son of an immigrant bartender and maid right?
Building off of Volkan’s argument, libertarianism fundamentally assumes only the government will ever deprive you of your rights, and freedom is guaranteed under limited government. The problem is, as the government decentralizes, it loses the power to protect your rights from your neighbor’s intent. Just because the government leaves you alone doesn’t mean your boss or landlord will.
I believe int he constitution above all else, because that is what prevents the freedom of other shit stains from taking mine if they have more than me. Anarchy is absolute nonsense
The social contract between the state and myself is a nice balance provided the state keeps it’s end of the bargain and protects the rights of myself and of my citizens first and foremost. The founders knew this, and understood this.
Again, anarchism is retarded
That makes the right to bear arms more meaningful.
Your boss chooses an inefficient worker over an efficient one than the market/community will punish them.
Your landlord chooses to discriminate against you then the community will decide “this landlord is bad I am not living there”.
You don’t need government for that.
Anarchism isn’t a viable form of anything. This is basic stuff, to discuss its merits is foolish.
Anarchism is the most advanced form of social structure there is.
Its so advanced that everyone needs to be involved and educated for it to work.
Extreme authoritarian government—>limited government(most sane governments including the USA,UK and France)
—>Minarchism—>Anarchism.
Government exists because there are things that are so massive that they take 24/7 employees to process(foreign trade,anti-terrorism, antitrust etc)
Imagine most of the population doing that themselves(anarchism)?
Anarchism way more advanced than statism because it requires the populace to be fully in-gauged in it.
lol damn what got you in the slammer homie?
Anyway with the human element Anarchism is pointless. Why ponder on the impossible. It’s not viable simple as that. Education isn’t the only thing holding Anarchism back, some people just genuinely aren’t good, or greedy or selfish or whatever. It doesn’t work, if we were all perfect beings than yea, sure, but we aren’t so why pretend like its a viable solution?
That is why we need a machine AI based government.
That is a more practical way to implement anarchism. Machines have no sense of ego,competition,self-preservation,or greed.
Anarchism = no rulers.(not no rules)
Machines are truly selfless servants and are impossible to corrupt(self correcting AI,decentralized structure,software immune system).
Does a soda vending machine rule over you?
No.
Does a desktop pc or mac rule over you?
No.
Does your car rule over you?
No.
Does your boss rule over you(to a limited degree)?
Yes.
A machine simply does what it’s designed to do. Nothing more. Machine government should operate the same way.
Just like socialism
Just like capatilism
Just like democracy
Just like anything that isn’t authoritarian.
The problem with anarchism is that people form their own governments anyway. If the government suddenly said fuck it tomorrow and shut down for good in all countries, other powers will rise. Government is like a rabid dog. If its going to exist anyway at least keep it on a leash. This is why I lean more towards the conservative side.
What is there to understand? Conservatives tend to believe that reality should conform to their beliefs and misconceptions. They will deny the majority of things that do not match their beliefs and they tend to make no effort to actually educate themselves.
The conservative media constantly lies about issues to fulfill their selfish desires, whether the issue is about guns, climate change, planned parenthood, religion, etc. The entire republican party is one big clown party. When their claims are put under examination, they’ve always been shown to be inaccurate, as Factcheck and Politifact show time and time again.
I have to say, these ideologies are a serious threat to the future of humanity.
Edit: On facebook, Donald Trump actually linked INFOWARS as a source that muslims were heard cheering during 9/11
Actually, the US has basically tried small-scale anarchy in the Old West. It didn’t work out particularly well then, and I won’t be much better if you try it now.
Quick question, how would that be any different then a religion or god?
I’d take the most hardcore, church going conservative over a liberal of any spectrum.
At least the conservative knows there is a degree of standards that should be met and maintained.
Where as the liberal mindset seems to make up a new set of rules that everyone must progressively follow.
(Wow, just wow. It’s current year. Your on the wrong side of history.)
I’m not gonna get into guns. Even when you overlooked the importance of hunting.
EX: Remember when Liberals went apeshit when that chick shot that feral cat?
Instead of simply killing them when spotted. They would rather have you capture, spay and neuter then release.
I would disagree and ask to whom? Hispanics consistently say they don’t like him.
When I went to school, the Muslim club actually celebrated the 9/11 attack, while knowing that their friends had family members that they lost. Imagine losing your mother or father while you’re still in school.
Of course some of them got jumped after school and had the nerve to cry racism after.
I heard them say stuff like Manhattan and everyone in it should be exterminated. I knew at the time that I could try to some how get it recorded but decided for my own safety that it was not worth getting involved with.