Republican Party presidential candidates, 2016

There’s one possible fascist, and he’s leading the pack. More worrisome are the people who rally to his call. Even more worrisome is that we’re worried about brown people coming into this country when white people are the actual terrorists.

That’s good advice. Now do you have anything of substance to say, or did you just come in here to trawl for gaffes?

What is there left to say? The Republican primary is clown shoes. All it’s done is stoke up a racist, anarchist radicals who want to intimidate and run away Muslims (and I assume anyone not white) and painted its politicians as pandering know-nothings. The candidates who could possibly do well are far behind in the polls to some guy wanting to beat up BLM protesters and another guy who thinks the Pyramids are fucking silos.

At this point, I’d be way more entertained if this particular primary didn’t stink of McCarthyism leading up to a little goddamn Mussolini being an actual candidate.

Trump is a fascist. That is all.

Trump is a terrable candidate. Totally doesn’t know whats he’s talking about as far as policy is concerned.

Hillary is truely awful as well.

I don’t understand why people will vote for another clinton or bush.

Like I told the other guy - you don’t understand conservative America by only reading liberal media.

You want to tell me that you don’t read conservative media because it’s shit. Fine ok. But, like I said, you won’t understand conservative America, because the media that you read (and write for?) intentionally frames issues and adopts assumptions in a way that necessarily defines conservatives as clowns.

What I don’t understand is this- if the choice is between simply believing that 50% of the country is stupid/silly; or trying to understand the 50% better, why do people like you always willfully choose the first?

If you choose to read about a group from literature written by their enemies, they will always appear to be deficient. Why is this so difficult for you, an otherwise reasonably intelligent person, to grasp?

What? I read conservative newspapers frequently. I just don’t agree with many of their viewpoints. Some progressive conservatives, like Ryan Cooper who writes for The Week, or more traditional conservatives, like WaPo’s columnist Jennifer Rubin, are my favorite reads and people who I could disagree with but respect their well-thought out opinions. Even WSJ’s editorial page is okay, but it’s heartless to people and way more pro-business than before Murdoch’s takeover. Actually, I love Ryan Cooper and find myself agreeing with him more than not.

And I don’t have much choice but to call them stupid when, given evidence their stance is wrong, they further entrench themselves in their position completely ignoring information that doesn’t agree with their stance. Yeah, this isn’t unique to conservatives (just look at those liberal college students essentially protesting freedom of speech) but a lot of what they are against–proper taxation, health care, education, climate change–have real, long-lasting negative effects on the country.

The democratic party was responsible for a lot of racist/xenophobic policies.

Why doesn’t anyone vote for libertarians?

Because they have a somewhat unrealistic ideology that hasn’t been tested anywhere except Honduras.

If you read conservative media as you claim to do, you’d know that the race is more than just “clown shoes” as defined via Trump and Carson’s overspun rhetoric and gaffes.

Personally, I thought that I’d lose interest in the race after Scott Walker dropped out, but the current battle by Cruz and Rubio to rise to the top is truly fascinating and a sign of a party that is, as we type, rehabilitating its image of a party of “old rich white men”.

Hence the link I posted earlier. I despise Cruz, but the article highlighted the very strong ground game he’s playing and the curious mix of ideology and realism that drives the man. Before I read it, I would’ve been extremely surprised if he won the nomination. Now, I’m not so sure.

What is their idealogy?

I personally don’t like a lot of punditry for candidates. Whether they win or lose is a coin toss and pundits are just as often wrong as they are right. I pay more attention to action by people because they are the ones who will be passionate enough to show up for the primaries and vote. So far, I think Trump has a lot of people frothing at the mouth just waiting to vote come the primaries in January.

There are, what, four states holding primaries in January? I’ll wait for those to go through and then give an opinion. I think you’re underestimating the GOP’s voter base’s intolerance of entrenched politicians. Let’s not forget how the Tea Party pushed in people who had little to no actual legislative experience into office and rooted out long-time Republican politicians. They’ve gone from a small portion of the GOP voter base in 2010 to a major force within the party and it’s no surprise they are about to put in a far-out candidate in the most coveted spot.

so is the democratic party

Obezzy had the fucking audacity to come out and say,

“we don’t need to fear Isis”

Yet he expanded the patriot act

Every economic policy has been tested already.

Liberterianism existed in the 1800’s with the railroad barons, leading up the the 4 barons of america. It doesn’t work. Just like communism doesn’t work, and socialism doesn’t work.

There needs to be balance.

Look at Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome. That’s what the USA is now. We are like them before they became an empire. Soon USA will become an empire and rule Earth. Once that happens, the USA empire will fall from within…

Lol at thinking that US policy is Obama’s sole creation. Most presidents pretty much do as they are told for the most part.

It isn’t, but what he says, doesn’t correlate with his actions. Politicians being politicians a.d people being incapable of catching it, is one of the more infuriating things.

Both Cruz and Rubio are wealthy white men. Neither are old. Hispanic isn’t a race and Cubans are an extreme outlier among Hispanics.

Cruz is Obama in 2008. Really good at grassroots activism and raising money and while he’s a bit of a shot, he has a lot of firepower stored. I can’t wait to see what he’ll do.

Libertarians are for limited government(pro-states rights,limited central government power,separation of powers,checks and balances,government limited by the constitution and bill of rights). Libertarians are for personal freedom(libertarians believe rights are inherent rights not state granted privileges) over government freedom.

How is limited government and personal freedom a failed idea?

We need to get as far away from authoritarian statism as possible. Libertarianism is the best thing available.

The extreme end of liberalism is happening right now on college campuses. That’s why it doesn’t work.