I’m all for innanetz trollin’ but c’mon dawg… You know you was way out there on that one.
Was looking up info on what happened, pics n video was up on the daily mail website… 
I’m so far removed from my previous victim mentality and I am better for it. I would have probably defended this guy before.
(Was it necessary for you to post the picture though? The answer is “no”.)
For the record, I wouldn’t have edited your post at all if you had just linked to said page and said “here’s a picture from the killer’s point if anyone wants to see” or something similar to that. There’s literally no reason to post the picture of him about to shoot the reporter directly to here, even if it wasn’t viscerally graphic.
Let’s just not post visuals of people’s last moments here if we can avoid it, which we pretty much always can. That’s all I’m saying. The media already increasingly acts like The Running Man-lite–or perhaps Network would be more apt–with showing more and more unedited snuff-esque stuff just because they have to be “first”. This especially now that they have to compete with social media, which is part of the problem in this particular case as a whole.
No need to make that particular issue even worse, especially since you should know by now that I’m not squeamish, so even if it had showed her getting shot or post-shooting, that would haven’t been an added factor for me.
That’s kind of a big “duh” and not at all my issue with what SlayerofBodom linked to, for the record.
Otherwise, noted I guess.
The point of his article was that the left shovels the victim thing down our throats constantly in pursuit of their agenda. I’ve been listening to the radio en route to and at work for the last couple days, the way this is being covered in contrast to the last high profile racist psycho is startling. This man bought into their narrative wholeheartedly and took it to the extreme, so the media focus immediately shifts to gun control. The bbc still talks about “unarmed black teenager Michael Brown, shot by white police officer Darren Wilson” (with no details further than that) almost every single night- alongside every other high profile case that furthers the narrative of evil racist America- yet I haven’t heard a peep from those limey blokes about who this man was or what motivated him. Those cock winders fan flames as hard as they can, then proceed to blame the tool used when someone goes the whole 9 yards with what they preach.
oh great, more stupid arguments form dumb people about firearms.
they pick up knives and cut people instead. Or plan out really grotesque rape fantasies by abusing their kids and or sexually.
only thing about this situation that gets me pissed is this nigga got usa to postponed mr.robot. WAS THIS YOUR MASTER PLAN NIGGA?
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For real tho, gun laws are a scapegoat for crimes like these. To me, it seems like the problem seemed to be flannigans mental health. Since the dark knight shootings in 2012, there’s been a pattern that the shooters are obviously mentally ill. IMO I barely see awareness for mental health being raised and something like therapy can possibly help these guys before things go awry. The fucked up thing about that is there are people who condemn the practice of therapy or ignore the importance and concept of mental health. The worst part about this situation is the few people who state flannigan was a martyr/hero for blacks. but those are very few and possibly just someone joking around.
I don’t know about the joking around part, shark jumping seems to be quite popular lately. Just a few days ago on on npr there was a story about a group of women who were being obnoxiously loud on a train ride wine tour (must be a thing in California). They were asked multiple times to tone in down, and finally kicked off, given transportation back, and given refunds. The conclusion from npr? Racism. Or at least enough do that they thought this bullshit was worth giving national airtime as a tale of oppression.
See also the fad of radical feminists doing their goddamndest to 1up each other daily, I.e. “I would abort my baby if I found out it was a male”, “tampons are a tool of patriarchal oppression”, etc.
The fonz didn’t have shit on today’s crowd.
Yeah regardless of whatever politics one follows they must admit America’s gun violence rate is ridiculous.
Crazy people exist everywhere, but these incidents seem to happen like clockwork in the States.
Well Fast & Furious was really a plot to give the Sinaloa Cartel free guns by our own government; they’ve conspired with them for at least over a decade now.
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Wait what happened?
Mainly switchblade knives
I live in Europe and even a Swiss pocket knife with utensils is illegal. I got reprimanded once in a police check, though fortunately they did not confiscate it.
Even switchblades are not entirely illegal, either. And like guns, knife laws are a state issue. Some ban them regardless, some have no restrictions (save for the usual don’t-carry-on-government-property rules).
As someone who was born in Europe and has probably lived in and visited more countries than you can name, been to every continent except Antarctica, I can confirm that yes, the US is the most black-friendly, gay-friendly country on the planet. The liberal media has brainwashed you to believe otherwise, but reality is that other places in the world are less tolerant.
Wow, you have incredibly high standards for someone being called “evil”! Even being a racist mass murderer videotaping his killings isn’t enough!
So I guess you’re arguing that Dylan Roof was also NOT evil, just “mentally ill”? What about Stalin? Or Pol Pot? Do they get to qualify? Or were they just “misunderstood” and “mentally ill”, too?
Are you just trolling? You want a newspaper article to lay out a comprehensive K-12 curriculum of US history, government, civics, etc? Don’t be ridiculous.
Maybe if you spent more time honestly thinking about what the article stated instead of reflexively dismissing it as “paranoid rightwing propaganda blaming the left” or defending the murderous, racist piece of shit as just “mentally ill, but not evil!”, you would realize how well it describes our society.
People are taught that America is evil and out to get them because of their skin tone, genitals, sexual orientation, etc.
That creates anger and division. On both sides. For some evil people, that anger and division is the match necessary to light the powder keg and create tragedy.
Amazing how you can read an entire article (if indeed you did, instead of skimming through) and still make such a factually incorrect assertion.
No, the article didn’t state anyone was “sweeping it under the rug”. I don’t know where you’re getting that from. Rather, it states that most liberal media has opted for the gun angle instead of the “violent racist who saw himself as a victim and wanted to start a race war by killing lots of people of another race” angle, which we know is true based on the killer’s own 23-page manifesto.
You know, the same angle they used for the Dylan Roof massacre?
(I can’t devil-summon you, white shadow, so I’ll just say that is super disgusting yet unsurprising. Also, crucades just posted picture of the female new reporter about to get shot from the killer’s POV that really didn’t need to be posted here even though it didn’t show anything.)
Sigh. I should really wait until I’ve slept and haven’t been up for about 24 hours to respond to this, but given you and I pretty much always disagree @SlayerofBodom, I might as well get this out of the way now. I apologize in an advance for any typos or vagueness that escapes my sleepy proofreading, but this what you get for now:
I guess I’ll have to take your word for that then even if I obviously disagree for various reasons that it’s obviously pointless to get into, especially since I don’t really listen to “the liberal media” on anything; I get my news from a local news that’s technically opened by Fox News and then from PBS Newshour.
But, hey, thanks for telling me how where I get my facts and feelings from as a minority. Totally haven’t heard that condescending bullshit before. [/victimhood]
I personally don’t believe in “evil”, so…I’m not trolling when I say it’s just a useless label to me that ultimately undermines his argument further in my eyes; hence why I clarified with “if you even believe in 'evil”. So, yes, I have guess I have “incredibly high standards” in that throwing around “evil” is already a non-starter for me that basically never solves anything anyway unless you’re straight talking about fiction, particularly D&D.
That said, I never said anything about being “misunderstood”. Even if he was mentally ill, which seems probable, there was nothing to misunderstand about the fact that he was clearly a danger to others, unlike the majority of other mentally ill people, and that more should have been done about him, but couldn’t be done in part due to the horrible mental health care in this country. So, yeah, I just don’t see what labeling him “evil” actually helps outside of maybe people sleep at night. Shrug.
As for Dylan Roof, it’s entirely possible that he’s also mentally ill, but it’s more difficult to say given his manifesto supposedly wasn’t really about himself at all outside of his own anger but rather about his perceptions of black people in general whereas Mr. Whatever His-Face here basically just talked about himself non-stop apparently in his manifesto because he was a deluded, angry narcissist. The supposed reason that triggered Dylan Roof’s shooting also had to do with more external factors since apparently it was ultimately set off by an ex of his getting with a black guy or something whereas before there have so been no reports that I know of Roof having any other outbursts like Mr. “Williams” did; I may well be wrong about that given I haven’t exactly bothered to research Roof’s life history and would rather not if I don’t absolutely have to do so.
Regardless, I can’t and won’t speak on the others because it’s pointless to talk about them here as well as a question you probably don’t actually care about; I also admittedly don’t know much about Pol Pot himself. Thanks for not invoking Godwin’s Law though.
Who asked for that? I just asked what does the article writer actually think a “more inclusive, more understanding country” would actually look like beyond “less victimhood”, which is literally all he gives as an example of it even though it’s a big “no shit” despite the fact I obviously don’t agree with a lot in the article. I also suggested he maybe give a few suggestions about how he thinks we get there. I’m not asking for some long essay with a bunch of charts and graphs about one would perfect the country or anything that seems overly demanding, but hey, I do have high standards, so it’s possible. I just think he would have more room if he focused less on other aspects that just seem like reaching to me given how recently this occurred and how little the media has actually been able to talk about it, relatively speaking.
Pointing hypocrisy is fine, but acting like they’re definitely never going to talk about it when the blood is barely dry seems preemptive even if probable.
I’m aware that it causes “anger and division” on both sides…which is why I don’t understand him focusing so hard on just the sins of one side. Sure, “the left” has a ton of hypocrisy. So does “the right”. So does politics and media (and religion) in general. …And? What exactly should we actually do about it? Oh, right. The article doesn’t bother to say that beyond “please be perceive yourselves to be victim less, especially if you’re black and/or gay”. Okay?
Like I said, the article doesn’t offer any actual solutions to anything even if it points out the obvious hypocrisy of “the left” and “the mainstream liberal media” and, of course, Hilary Clinton, who isn’t trustworthy anyway, so fuck her.
Sweet. Informative. Enlightening. My dishonestly thinking mind was totally set free once I reached out to the truth.
I’m just (also) confused as to how we supposedly actually make things better then the currently are if all we’re doing is spreading around blame? Doesn’t that just cause more “anger and division” even if the blame is justified? Because I’m honestly all ears and I didn’t “hear” anything about actually making things better. Just pointing out obvious hypocrisy of once side while ignoring the blatant hypocrisies of the other side. Geez. Never heard that before.
My point, as I expressed again, was that I don’t see why he’s deciding that when it’s been now, at most, two days and acting like the media is done talking about it. That’s what I meant by “swept under the rug”. The media’s still talking about it and mostly spending time mourning colleagues. So to be an asshole–well, a bigger one–and intentionally use a horrible pun, he’s “jumping the gun” on that front (to me).
Now, I will grant that it’s unlikely the media will bring up the “violent racist” angle here because people, stupidly, believe that minorities can’t also be racist for some reason and I say this as a black person. I’ll also grant “the liberal media” stupidly seemingly going to be lobbying for the “gun control by itself as our savior” angle instead of saying much of anything about mental health.
Oh well. What else is new? What is anyone going to actually do about that hypocrisy if they’re supposedly so tired of it and it’s supposedly so “brainwashing” and anger-inducing and divisive? (Besides, you know, shoot people with guns.)
That said, there’s also the issue that this guy, “violent racist” though he may be (well, have been, given he’s thankfully dead now), actually knew the two people he killed; the other woman he shot fortunately lived, though she apparently lost a kidney and it’s difficult to tell if part of why she lived was just because he wasn’t that interested in her compared to the other two or if it was some other factor(s). Since you bring up Dylan Roof (so much), part of the reason that media so sensationalized it was because he gunned down random people he didn’t know in a (historic black) church after sitting with them for about an hour. Last I checked, churches are still generally regarded as sacred, safe places, so that certainly didn’t do Mr. Roof any favors.
As much as you and the author keep trying to compare the two incidents, they really aren’t that similar beyond the fact that this incident was supposedly racial “revenge” for that incident and that they both similarly failed (so far) in igniting a “race war”, instead succeeding only killing people.
So, yeah, since this “best article” you posted is supposedly so enlightening, I’ll ask again my ultimate question when it comes to it: How do we supposedly fix this situation beyond channeling Scarlet Witch and going “no more victimhood”? Just getting stricter on guns, even if it were easy to do, is hardly going to change much of anything and just blaming hypocrisy that’s going to stick around as long as it gets rating and attention isn’t going to do anything either.
So…?
My question is would my nigga have gotten some burger king if he was still alive?
To a degree, the people who are arguing in support of gun control have a point but at the same time, there will always be new methods for criminals to kill innocent people off the street. Just recently, 4 kids beat an innocent person to death, all for some stupid ass gang initiation shit, and this happens allot. I can mention allot of killings that happened in NYC that didn’t involve guns.
This is America, there will always be a new way for Americans to murder… this fucking country was built from murder. Terrifying Death penalty is the way to go. Back in the day, people were scared to commit plain thievery or going against the church all because of a brutal death penalty. Religion itself keeps the masses
This It’s like with religion here, religion was made to control the masses with the whole “fear of eternal damnation”, if we install a bit of that into our reality i do think it will be possible for crime to decrease because no one would want to be executed under Scaphism or other brutal death penalties.
Sorry to intrude, but I must respectfully disagree with you there. As a black American currently living and traveling around Europe, the difference is like night and day. I’ve received no harassment or awkward treatment; most Europeans I’ve encountered, whether it be in a professional or causal setting have been quite friendly, informative, and helpful. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Europe on a whole is a wonderland or a utopia- far from it, but there are lot less things I have to worry about as a black person living in Europe. While in the States, I’ve dealt with more racism in the average week than I have in a year in Europe, incidences that now infuriate me in hindsight.
On the other hand, I have European relatives that have traveled to America only to be harassed by police and experienced other annoying incidents, because they acted with the “reckless abandon” white Americans take for granted- you know, like renting a luxury car to visit family without cops approaching them for ID whilst in a parked car.
Your retarded ass needs to be banned for that dumbshit.
Western Europe is racist towards Africans too, it is just that it is a more latent racism.
In the UK you are less likely to get a job or get paid well if you’re black. Also the UK has perhaps the largest divide between rich and poor worldwide.
France has ghettos and poor Africans living in the suburbs. Germany is too conservative to allow foreigners to work in government jobs or get good paid jobs. Also extremism is high there too.
Even in Sweden things are not ideal.
Unfortunately their mainstream media often omit such injustices and take the view of the ruling parties. You have to know the language or have lived there to understand the situation.
Eastern and South Eastern Europe experienced mass influx of immigrants relatively recently, so they are still adapting and racist incidents are more pronounced, including stabbings, beatings and murders.
But even with the recent refugee crisis in the Middle East there is a distinction between the Syrians and the rest (Iraq, Afghanistan, sub-Saharan Africa etc). Because Syrians used to have a cultivated lifestyle and education, resembling middle class Europe. Versus the uneducated and fanatical denizens of the other countries. Though sometimes they can go full swing. Eg police in the Balkans beating immigrants waiting to cross the border to reach Germany.
wait wut? chapo was/is part of the sinaloa cartel and we had deals with said cartel?! well then