Reporter and cameraman killed on air in Virgina

I’m actually going to agree with Soviet for once, if we start taking away things that could be used for death, we’d all eventually be confined to padded cells with spoons that dissolve after a short time that’s edible and non threatening in anyway.

Not all knives are illegal to carry

I’m actually shocked more people aren’t going nuts with him being able to post that shit online so easily, after the fact.

This is the best article I have read so far on the matter, and sadly, it applies to the people here, focusing on the guns (because someone willing to commit the crime of mass murder and then kill themselves isn’t willing to get a gun illegally, right?) instead of the mindset that made this occur;

"On Wednesday, America met a deeply evil human being: Vester Lee Flanagan II, also known as reporter Bryce Williams.

Williams murdered two people while they were live on air on WDBJ in Virginia: reporter Alison Parker, and cameraman Adam Ward. After the murders, he went on the run – and while he was on the run, he tweeted out his rationale for the killings, accusing Parker of making “racist comments” and Ward of going “to hr on me after working with me one time!!!” He then posted video to his Facebook and Twitter pages of himself shooting both at point-blank range.

**Williams is black. Parker and Ward were white.

Williams is gay. Parker and Ward were straight.

None of which would be relevant, except that Williams specifically cited his identity as a factor in the killings. In a 23-page rambling letter sent to ABC News, Williams wrote that the Charleston church shooting in June should have provoked a race war: “Why did I do it? I put a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…What sent me over the top was the church shooting…You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” According to ABC News, he claimed he had “suffered racial discrimination, sexual harassment and bullying at work,” that he had “been attacked by black men and white females,” and that he had been “attacked for being a gay, black man.”**

Williams marinated in his self-appointed victimhood status. He filed a lawsuit against his Tallahassee, Florida employer, WTWC – a lawsuit settled out of court. He filed a complaint with the with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission against WDBJ after his firing – a complaint the EEOC dismissed. According to WDBJ station manager Jeff Marks, Williams was “an unhappy man” with a “reputation as someone who had been difficult to work with… looking out for people to say things that he could take offense to.”

**Had a white straight man killed a black gay man, released first-person tape of the shooting, and then unleashed a manifesto about being victimized by affirmative action and anti-religious bigotry from homosexuals, the media would never stop covering the story. They’d be eager to report that shooter’s motives with all the attendant politically correct hullaballoo about the racism and homophobia of the United States more broadly. We would hear about white supremacy (reprehensible Black Lives Matter leader Deray McKesson actually jumped the gun, thinking the shooter was white, and tweeted, “Whiteness will explain away nearly anything”).

We would hear excoriations of the Republican presidential candidates for their failures to stand with the Black Lives Matter movement–and their opposition to same-sex marriage. In similar circumstances, the entire political and media establishment determined that the Confederate flag was somehow to blame for Dylan Storm Roof’s brutal slaying of nine people at a historically black church; just last week, the media tried to blame Donald Trump’s anti-immigration stance for two thugs beating up a Hispanic homeless man in Boston.**

But Bryce Williams’ self-described victim status, even while murdering innocents, will merit no rethinking of the divisive politics in which he apparently bathed. We won’t have a conversation about whether pushing a perennial picture of victimhood for blacks and gays in the most black-friendly, gay-friendly country on the planet could drive supposed victims to violence. We won’t talk about whether the Democratic Party’s takeover by the Black Lives Matter crew has encouraged some people to believe that only black lives matter, since only black lives are in danger – and even then, only some black lives matter, namely those killed by white people. Instead, we will be assured that Bryce Williams is an outlier by the same people who blamed Sarah Palin for Jared Lee Loughner shooting Gabrielle Giffords.

It is true that statistical outliers should not be used to club entire movements into submission. But leftists protesting at the linkage between Williams and their favored political causes have no ground on which to stand – they consistently blame conservatives for outlier events with no statistical basis. Moreover, Williams’ violence is part of a larger trend, not of black men killing white people (that still happens disproportionately, but the numbers are down), but of black men using supposed American racism as a rationale for violence more generally, and of gay people using supposed American homophobia as a rationale for violation of others’ rights.

**Some in the media are actually going beyond delinking Williams from his politics – they’re defending Williams’ perverse worldview, questioning whether evil, racist, homophobic America created him. Columnist WonderWomanist at Gawker wrote, “I can understand him being frustrated with racial discrimination at his job but it was not worth throwing his life over… RIP to the victims even though they may have been racist.”

Kay Steiger at ThinkProgress took Williams’ self-serving narrative at face value: “One part of the document included the phrase ‘Suicide Note for Friends and Family’ and detailed discrimination he experienced as a gay, black man.”

But most of the the media will swivel to gun control, following the lead of the White House and Hillary Clinton, both of whom called for heavier gun control laws – even as both push for the release of criminals from prisons, a crackdown on law enforcement, and a racially divisive narrative of the country pitting black against white, all for political gain.

All of these policies will do nothing to stop Bryce Williamses — in fact, they will make Bryce Williamses more common. Teaching Americans that they aren’t victims would be a great way of battling evil – most victims aren’t evil, but virtually all evil people think they are victims, and thus justify their violence. But teaching Americans that they aren’t victims would undercut the Democratic message that all minorities are victims, and thus require bigger government. And that message, and its attendant political success, must take precedence over the building of a more inclusive, more understanding country.**

can someone tell me why there wasnt a muzzle flash in the video? and i have to assume it was a small caliber bullet since it didn’t knock her down and she was able to run some distance?

He was likely using low flash ammo, from my extremely limited understanding muzzle flare is largely dependent on how “hot” the round is - that is, how much powder is used in the case. That and the length of the barrel, I think i.e. shorter barrels = more flare as the propellant isn’t given a lot of time to exhaust itself and is still burning after sending the round down range.

I think there is a distinction to be made between what is incidentally dangerous (a hammer) and what is designed to be dangerous (a gun). It’s not like people also use guns for housework or transportation.

Hunting, sport, and transportation of goods i.e. moving money and valuables. While these can all be debatable and you are right, guns have a sole purpose of doing one job when used, I think we are, as a society, easy to point fingers and just put the blame on what ever is easy to with out tackling the root of the problem. If crazy people have a death wish, they will most likely do it by any means necessary. Look at human history, people have always died for some stupid reasons, and if it’s not by a tool solely used for it, it’s done by other ways.

so… where are the crazy female shooters? when are they going to snap?

Where is the actual video of the shooting lol?

dont post it here

PM a link then, wanna see this bitch get blapped. B)

(Again, who here is talking about banning all guns? Well, besides Magegg, but we should just ignore him anyway in most instances.)

The “crazy female shooters” only snap at whatever man they’re currently in a relationship with and then usually get off at trial for killing him, @Shin_Jr. So basically they’re right where they’ve always been: on Lifetime, Oxygen, ID, etc.

I underlined the most absurd part about this supposed “best” article: the U.S. is neither of those things. Please stop joking. This is a serious matter after all.

The article also doesn’t exactly win points for, among other reasons, just outright calling someone who is was probably mentally ill “evil”, which even if you do believe he is/was “evil” just undermines the chief point this guy is supposedly trying to make: if the shooter was (already) “evil”, then what exactly would teaching him not to be a “victim” have actually done in this case? Especially since the article conveniently fails to offer any actual suggestions on how to actually build the “more inclusive, more understanding country” it supposedly wants?

Maybe if the article spent way less time just blaming the left and the media for every single things that’s apparently wrong in the country it would actually get somewhere that doesn’t come off as just more paranoid anti-government ravings ultimately; this even though, yes, there’s definitely some stupid and hypocritical people among them because “duh”. This especially since he’s acting like the media is not giving this any attention whatsoever but instead just sweeping it under the rug even though it happened just yesterday, so I’m not sure why he’s acting like they’re has stopped covering the story unless he wants them to give the killer more clout by basically reading the manifesto on air verbatim. It’s almost like he’s mad that they’re mostly focusing on the victims for once instead of the shooter because it doesn’t fit his narrative, which is ironically equally as absurd as the narrative he’s decrying. Especially since for all his talk about how blacks and gays are taught to be victims, he kinds of ignores that a lot of (presumably) heterosexual white men have had this exact same thing had have the exact same mentality despite the fact they’re obviously not minorities, meaning that this writer is also ironically taking the killer’s manifesto at face value rather than narcissistic, delusional rambling they are.

That said, you have my thanks for at least posting all of that so I didn’t have to click the link given how ridiculous it is.

[There was a picture here. It’s gone now.]

The ultimate profile picture update. Saw the vid, meh. You savages enjoy your gun debate.

Rock gets banned for some innocuous shit, but this nigga gets to post THAT?

C’mon, mods… Do your damn jobs right for once.

because real life guns don’t look like some Scarface shit when on camera.

http://i.imgur.com/l3sZKaF.gif

to pull that visual off they had to synchronize the camera’s frame rate with the gun blasts. if they hadn’t done that you might have seen maybe 2 or 3 in that ENTIRE scene, not every single flash.

adrenaline, bruv.

and bullets don’t knock people down.

Sticks and stones for one thing. That message is completely forgot in todays PC friendly culture.
Also some stoic beliefs or optimism wouldnt hurt either.

The point is not to blame everything around you but instead find the fault in yourself and try improving yourself accordingly.
Dont get me wrong. Pushing inclusion is entirely wrong and short sighted.

In relation to the last few posts, I can’t recommend Life at the Bottom (http://www.amazon.com/Life-Bottom-Worldview-Makes-Underclass/dp/1566635055) enough. The book was written by a doctor in England’s national health system, based on his observations over the years working with patients over the years.Telling people they’re victims all the time has terrible effects on society.

Erm it was on a news website?

(That’s not really an excuse, crucades.)

If people want to see it, then they can go to Liveleak or whatever to see pictures or probably watch the video. Don’t do that again. I don’t want to have to ban you, especially over something so easily avoidable.