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one of the comments in there mentioned that at least we know the station is hiring…
errrr, I hate to admit it, I chuckled.
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This Australian comedian is on point in regards to U.S. gun laws:
[/quote]Gun laws are strict in the usa. However access to guns is very easy. Black market. Craigs list. Personals. Buying from a guy’s collection. Gun shows.
Also we are close to mexico.
If you want a gun you could get one in 5 days or post an online ad/look online
It has nothing to do with strict gun laws. It has more to do with dangerous people and how they can get guns.
Whether it be from gun runners, guys selling them in parking lots, or even legally.
This guy sounded mentally imbalanced
The President can’t dish out increased sentences. Not even via Executive Order.
Have you seen some of the Doom edits yet?
This is not about gun law you be real wtf
I said butterknife but it couldve been anything. Dude WANTED to kill someone he was gonna kill them regardless. Its the same with all the other mass killers they wouldve found a way to do it.
Im not a gun nut but it makes me angry to see people blame guns when its not gun law fault. The solution to crimes luke these is not simply banning guns closing our eyes and acting like they dont exist, cause they do. Maybe a cultural movement to be more educated and respectful of guns, or having a workforce thats not made disgruntled by being overworked overcharged and underpaid. This gun shit is barely a fuckin bandaid on a forearm cut when the whole bone is broken
Just because there is a law that is written that says you cannot do this or that will not stop people from acquiring something or doing the very thing they want. There is laws against cocaine but yet if want it there are ways of getting it. No different if there were stricter gun laws.
(So are we not allowed to mention guns when they kill people? And who said anything about banning guns completely, here at least? I personally wasn’t trying to make it solely about guns, but at the same thing acting like there can’t be better guns laws, alongside better mental health care, even if they wouldn’t have necessarily stopped this particular guy is rather disingenuous.)
Either way, my bigger, main point is that mental health care is basically trash in this country. Even more so than regular health care is, which is saying a lot since that too still kind of sucks even post-Obamacare even if it’s vaguely better just because more people have access now. That neither Congress nor the President have really addressed mental health care, including the pro-gun people who supposedly agree that there needs to be better mental health care at least so long as it doesn’t touch guns and Obama himself, just shows how worthless, incompetent and strictly self-motivated they ultimately all are. I’m not trying to say that enacting a mental health care reform law or a series of them will magically make everything better or that it would be easy and without opposition, but they aren’t even trying.
Also, good luck in making a “cultural movement to be more educated and respectful of guns” or any type of cultural movement that actually, you know, works rather than just gutters out like Occupy Wall Street did or like how this Black Lives Matter probably will. The only way to maybe get a cultural movement to work is if it would immediately benefit people themselves or people they positively care about given how much we’re about instant gratification. And even those tend to always face opposition, if only from the powers that be and those brainwashed by them or who legitimately benefit from the status quo.
Otherwise, things have been so excessively politically polarized for so long that people are basically entrenched behind issues as matters of pride rather than matters of reason. As such, people are unfortunately unwilling to question anything they’ve been told to believe in, much less listen to anything that don’t line up with the talking points they’ve been fed. That is the really frustrating part of this general state of efforts, but that too is unfortunately just life and human nature in general. I honestly don’t see any actual way to change it (save for just killing everyone).
Yes, you really don’t know what to tell me then because I honestly don’t see what’s worth getting upset over in this sense and I doubt I ever will thankfully. I already explained why I see it as nonsensical, especially since it’s not like actual justice (or closure) exists one way or the other. If you guys want to get mad, then I can’t and won’t stop you from getting mad–I’ll just continue to be genuinely confused by it.
Oh well. Thanks for the attempted explanation I guess.
- I read the news today oh boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car *
I understand and agree with tougher gun laws. I just dont agree that the proper response to tragedies like this is “we need stricter gun laws”. Thats like building a house on the beach, multiple tidal waves hit it, and everytime you go “yknow what we need? THICKER WINDOWS”.
they would’ve had a higher chance of survival if he didn’t have access to a gun. he would have to kill them in a different way because it was 3vs1 so on-air killing would have been insanely difficult. not saying these murders would have been avoided because of gun control, but i do believe it would have been harder for him to carry out his plan.
(Oh, it’s not the proper response.)
At least, it’s not the proper response if that’s all you’re going to do. We can at least both agree on that and I say this as someone who is admittedly rather anti-gun. In fact, I’d be fine with no tougher gun restrictions despite all the gun violence in America if some (extensive) mental health care reform and funding actually happened, but given neither is happening due to corruption, cowardice and idiocy…
Similarly, I’d like if the movement you described where people who actually want guns are taught (read: forced) to be more responsible with guns could work, especially since as much as the (far) left is taken to task for supposedly wanting to ban all guns, the (far) right usually puts out the NRA-backed “solution” of just arming more people with guns without mandating gun safety and training like that would work instead. I just know that it wouldn’t work with the way America currently is unfortunately. I’m not sure when or even if that will ever change either; given my unfortunately well-founded cynicism about humanity and America, I rather doubt it (will be any time soon).
See…this kind of logic only works in places where you can’t get a gun basically on every street corner.
No he wouldn’t. It’s the US. It’s not that hard - even a foreigner like me could get one pretty easily.
If it doesn’t actually stop the death, then it’s an ineffective measure of control.
that’s assuming everyone gets their guns off the streets. i’m not suggesting anything that could solve this problem forever, just saying there can be progress by implementing measures to make it harder. slippery slope maybe but we can’t just say “well they’ll get it off the black market so fuck it”.
I wish the media would stop givin’ lunatics so much God damn attention for killin’ people, evidence shows a large portion of why this happens is for the infamy that will follow. I was watchin’ CNN earlier today and they had a guy on there who was sayin’ the media was givin’ the guy too much coverage and the host immediately started tryin’ to change the subject and play dude to the left.
I’ve given up on the gun control situation. The thing is, people always look at shit like this and wanna crack down on guns, and hey, I get it. But there are many different Americas and the version I live in, some nut doin’ something with a gun that garners the modern medias attention is the least of my problems. The America where I live, stricter gun laws do jack shit. You can buy a pistol off a crack head for leik, 3 rocks. Or you can buy an AK from some random Joe for a few hundos. I was one of those gun control guys who was for stricter gun laws too, but then I looked at my situation and realized what people wanted wasn’t gonna help me. I just broke down and got my CCT a few months ago.
If people feel they can stop these sorts of crimes from happenin’, then by all means, do what you gotta do. But in the America I live in, shit is real out here, some criminal aint gon’ catch me lackin’.
You’re right. “Ruler of the Earth” instead.
one possibility is that stricter control and tax on guns would lead to less illegal guns on the street. street price would go up because eventually their supply would go down over the years. this is just a theory btw. i’m not for eliminating guns completely but i don’t believe the current system is doing much good.
OT, this dude had major problems and dealt with them in an extreme way. if he wanted that chick dead then chances are very high that he would get that done without a gun. mass murder on the other hand, not as easily.
We already have a ridiculous gun tax where I am (one of the highest in the US) and we have the strictest gun control in the country; coupled with the highest body count in the country, ironically. They actually implemented the new heightened-gun tax and shootins went up 20+%. I watched a doc that said only 30% of the guns found on the streets actually came from gun shops anywhere near city limits. Folks don’t even know where the shit is comin’ form anymore. It’s crazy out here.
I’m not saying ban guns, but if you honestly think that a butterknife is as dangerous as a gun, you are a fucking retard.
Fixed. You can end somebody fairly quickly even a dull knife if you know what you’re doing. Statistically, not many outside of a couple branches of the military do.