Real important: Net Neutrality in Danger!

Good luck to them on that. Hackers will be going on a hacking spree against both ISP companies & congress just like before.

Revolt… that’s a good one. The second they revolt, the Feds will just shoot them.

The ISPs own our elected officials, so that’s dead on arrival.

Good luck to them on that. People will just come armed with guns themselves.

The UN considers High speed broadband internet a basic human right

Too bad our own Government can’t say the same thing

Our own government doesn’t even consider shelter and food to be basic human rights.

Fuck “our” government with a sawed-off shotty.

“This country was bought and paid for a long time ago.” - George Carlin

that true too, how Trump handling Puerto Rico is disgusting.
What what you would about George Bush with Louisianan, Trump is far, far, far worst.
Bush at least (eventually) recognize whats going on and send proper Federal aid after the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisianan stop being dicks and it took them 3 days before they are forced to ask for help.

The Governor of Puerto Rico is practically begging Trump, and he sits on his hands.

The Governor of Puerto Rico is playing up to the camera to score political points.

Here is the response to PR:

https://www.fema.gov/blog/2017-09-29/overview-federal-efforts-prepare-and-respond-hurricane-maria

It was comprehensive, immediate and thorough. They had people on the ground, sea and air. I’m failing to understand how this is ‘sitting on his hands.’ In fact the military had engineers on the island beforehand shoring up the defense.

Net neutrality is somewhat complicated. What they want to repeal from what I understand are rules put in place in '15 or '16? There’s a perspective that the rules impede development because they don’t encourage competition to grab more customers. The concern is more around LTE I think. I believe one of the examples used for repeal is t-mobile offering unlimited data for certain services (netflix, maybe spotify?). I think this is a violation if I understand it correctly. So even though in theory it could be great for customers, it’s against net neutrality.

There are also arguments about how it’s hurt development of infrastructure too. I think if you are concerned with net neutrality you should try to understand what the repeal side thinks too.

The best route is likely to just rethink the whole thing and write a new foundation for telecommunications. We have some info now to try and craft something which works better.

Need real Mr robot?

Stop.

Ajit Pai, the head of the FFC under Trump, has said that he believes the rules creating net neutrality now are too onerous. He thinks the internet providers should be the ones to police what content is available to people. He says he’s for free and open internet but is against the regulations that do EXACTLY that. Here ya go.

He’s wrong on so many counts. He has zero evidence that no one is investing in broadband, when in fact since the rules have been placed it’s gone up. You can’t seriously believe internet is not being invested in when you see us with Fios now and moving up to 5G from 4G LTE.

Meanwhile, allowing ISPs the opportunity to charge small businesses for traffic actually impedes the growth of small businesses, many of which rely on a free and open internet to actually turn a buck.

My favorite, btw, is his “hypotheticals are hypotheticals” whenever someone brings them up. But in fact the ISPs have done this, namely when Netflix was slowed down under some ISPs. He’s a massive fucking idiot but that’s what I expect from this administration.

His problem is for the internet to be named a utility, something Obama opened the door to. He wants ISP providers to have the ability to bilk consumers for literally their last penny to access a part of life now that’s seen as necessary. Sorry but I’m not sorry. The US government invented the internet and thus should be charged with it. That’s taxpayer dollars at work. Fuck Pai.

The BULLSHIT never stops.

Spoiler

The FCC is peddling its net neutrality spin as facts
The agency is disseminating a list of myths vs. so-called facts and it’s very misleading.
Mallory Locklear, @mallorylocklear

Last week, the FCC released the final draft of its proposal to rollback net neutrality protections, a plan that the agency will vote on next month. Removing these protections has been a targeted goal of FCC Chairman Ajit Pai since he took the position, and even in the face of immense pushback from both the public and hundreds of companies and organizations, the FCC has moved forward with the plan and are fully expected to approve it in just a couple of weeks. Since its release, the draft proposal has continued to draw intense opposition and now the FCC has released a list of myths vs. facts in regards to the plan. But this list, which poses as an explanatory breakdown of the FCC proposal and is most definitely the agency’s attempt at damage control, is nearly as ill-conceived as the plan itself.

Let’s take the first bullet point. “Myth: This is the end of the internet as we know it. Fact: The internet was free and open before the Obama Administration’s 2015 heavy-handed Title II regulations, and it will be free and open after they are repealed.” Well, Mr. Pai, that last bit isn’t actually a fact. It is at best a hope. The FCC could have ensured that a free and open internet would indeed be a fact for the citizens of the United States, but it has instead chosen to remove the regulations that would do just that. What internet service providers (ISPs) will choose to do with their soon-to-be newfound deregulation is not in any way guaranteed and even if some have said they will honor net neutrality and promote an open internet, it doesn’t mean they actually will.

Here’s another one. “Myth: This will result in ‘fast lanes’ and ‘slow lanes’ on the internet that will worsen consumers’ online experience. Fact: Restoring Internet freedom will lead to better, faster and cheaper broadband for consumers and give startups that need priority access (such as telehealth applications) the chance to offer new services to consumers.” The FCC is really playing fast and loose with the word “fact” because, again, this is not a fact.

A fact, since we clearly need to review its definition, is, according to the trusty ol’ Merriam-Webster dictionary, “something that has actual existence, an actual occurrence or a piece of information presented as having objective reality.” The FCC doesn’t have any way to prove that its proposal will lead to a better internet experience for consumers. It can hope that’s the case. It can, I guess, continue to preach that such an unfounded claim could happen, but stating that as fact is wildly inappropriate, egregiously misleading and a straight-up abuse of power.

The majority of the FCC’s myth vs. fact list does this repeatedly – stating something as fact when it is at most a possibility. Whether they are possibilities that the members of the FCC actually believe could happen or just what they want all of us to think will happen is unclear.

If we are to believe this list, the FCC proposal WILL “promote consumers’ online privacy,” ISPs WON’T block websites or charge more for certain content and the reduced regulations WILL “lead to greater investment in building and expanding broadband networks in rural and low-income areas.” But all of those claims are ridiculous because none of them are guaranteed.

What the FCC is doing with this proposal is putting all of its faith and the fate of consumers’ internet in the hands of US ISPs. Sure, some of these practices didn’t happen prior to the 2015 regulations put in place during the Obama administration, but the FCC wants everyone to buy into the belief that they never will. Essentially, it wants you to trust ISPs to do the right thing.

But why should we? ISPs aren’t governed by the public good. They aren’t driven by morality. Their business decisions aren’t made based on what is best for the consumer. They are all there to make money. And if throttling service or offering paid prioritization is the next way for them to make more money, then why wouldn’t they do it? Further, if the FCC members truly believe ISPs won’t or that they shouldn’t (though I highly doubt they believe that), then why on earth would they remove the only regulations keeping them from actually doing that?

The FCC also says that if ISPs engage in practices like blocking and throttling, they would face heavy consumer backlash and the insinuation is that consumer backlash is enough to deter such practices. It has also continuously stated that removing these regulations would promote competition and protect the consumer. If you look at the US as a whole, there are quite a few ISPs around – BroadbandNow says there are currently 2,665 ISPs in the US – but that number keeps dropping as more and more companies merge.

Some of the mergers are between smaller telecom companies that you likely haven’t even heard of, but others, like Charter’s acquisition of Time Warner Cable, are massive and have a huge impact on the market. Nationwide, the telecom market is being consolidated, and a few significant mergers – Charter and Time Warner Cable as well as Verizon and AOL – have happened since the Obama-era Title II regulations were put in place, meaning there’s less competition to, in theory, keep ISPs in check than there was prior to those regulations being put in place.

But even outside of reduced competition, when it comes down to the individual internet user, nationwide competition actually has very little meaning. Many people have just one or, at best, two ISPs to choose from. So, even if consumers wanted to fight back against shady ISP practices by switching to another provider, most can’t. And so this idea that consumers themselves can keep ISPs in line and encourage them to promote an open internet is completely bogus. Consumers can’t do that, which is why so many want the FCC to.

Plus, a number of companies have actually engaged in practices that go against the spirit of net neutrality. Comcast has repeatedly prioritized its own streaming services over others by excluding its own from data caps. It also, along with Time Warner and Verizon, has been accused of throttling Netflix streaming. Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T have also all come under for their zero-rating schemes, which were initially denounced by the FCC until Ajit Pai took over. And some of those practices took place while Title II regulations and bright-line rules were in place. Why should we expect ISPs to not engage in those practices without regulations?

So while reading the FCC’s list of myths vs. facts, keep in mind that most of those “facts” are opinions, hopes or possibilities. And you have to ask yourself if you trust unregulated ISPs to choose the possibility that’s best for you and best for the internet. If you don’t, speak up for net neutrality, because it’s running out of time.

Pai doesn’t have his foot set in reality. He’s doing exactly what he was likely paid to do: undo roadblocks for ISPs to do whatever they want.

This is why he falls back on “hypotheticals are just hypotheticals.” He’s hoping that discredits the worry that a large number of US citizens have by removing the restrictions placed on them. This is simply so ISPs can nickle and dime you freely.

It’s disgusting, imo.

This is a beautiful post.

You think that’s beautiful? Should’ve seen how I ripped “competition” to shreds seeing as how the majority of Americans only have one ISP option, maybe two in some parts.

I removed it because I thought everyone would already know that and know he’s full of shit.

You are doing God’s own work, R@z0r.

Yea Ajit Pai is up to eyeballs in horse shit. I wouldn’t piss on his teeth if they where on fire.

https://twitter.com/ppi/status/934919720792240128
This is quite grimey of the FCC…

who is ppi?

Progressive Policy Institute is a conservative think tank masquerading as a liberal institution.

Just look up Will Marshall to be convinced.