I’m now at that point either…
link combos have yet to be prophetized
movement is a jerkfest, too stigmatic
3rd Strike spoiled me in a way, bombastic-ness overall
Competition right now is at the heart of the game.
That’s not why they added shortcut motions at all.
In other news, the op still hasn’t even mentioned where he’s from…kinda makes me feel like he really did quit :crybaby:
The OP didnt quit, he made several other threads asking for advice in SFIV, when we called him out on it, he simply said he could not resist the game…
LoL…I can’t blame him. :pleased:
Although I do hate this game. :bluu:
I know I’m going to sound like a ass, but this is my honest opinion. A roadblock is in your way and you are being a major pussy and not trying to work around it. If you get discouraged by a roadblock you will never reach a competitive high level. Now, if your that serious about Street Fighter and playing at actual arcades then move. That’s right move over the game to a nearby arcade. I live in CA and the closest arcade that I know of is in Los Angeles called Arcade Infinity. That’s a roadblock since I do not live there. However, I plan to possibly move there and get around this roadblock. See? I actually try to work around the problem instead of complaining and being discouraged not to. You need to put the damn big boy pants on and do something. If you plan to become a really good player, but get discouraged because of roadblocks like this…Well, good luck. Have fun.
I just put SF4 on hold and now I’m practicin dat Tekken
There is lag in fps games, especially cod4. The reason why you don’t feel it as bad as compared to sf is that, SF is way more input dependent or your friend just isn’t good enough at fps’ to notice the lag in cod4, because it’s definitely there.
Me Too Hope T6 BR online is GGPO like lol
Harada says it will at least be better than sf 4 code
couldn’t stand the lag in cod4. You and another guy are shooting it out and you die. See the replay and you see yourself go down without getting a round off…so annoying.
This works if you use pad and you want some real deal competition. Change to stick and you’ll know what I mean.
Finally sold my copy, what a relief. Bought a ps3 to play it, and it was the game that i played the less. Crappy slow gameplay, imput latency made me suck on other street fighters, next to no competition and strong signal players online, and when my ps3 got broken the hardware lock screwd my progress, i cound’t take it anymore.
I also got a private comment from that guy saying: "Please commit suicide."
But i quit arguing with 13 y.o. kids long time ago.
Also, funny that some guys mentioned FPS lag, if only! Even street fighter 4 netcode its better then any shooter with p2p online gameplay. It skips me up to 30-60 frames at best.
Oh shit. You guys suck. I could have punished you when I whiffed my DP if only THERE WAS LAG. Dude all your fancy tricks wouldn’t work online man. I could have DPed you out of Jab -> Jab, It’s just because we’re at an arcade that you can pull that shit off. You know when I jumped in on you? man, there’s no way you coulda hit me out of that, You shouldn’t have time to punish a crossup if you just blocked one. Jwong Sucks, Daigo sucks. they should face me on XBL 
There’ll always be lag online, and until a certain point you can get better while playing online because you can learn zoning ranges, priority. I got into ST purely from playing on GGPO, and once I showed up to play HDR at a tournament I could still hold my ground, even though I couldn’t pull my combos off (by mashing, online habit) because I had the fundamentals down. After playing offline I’m much better and don’t mash nearly as much anymore (especially since chun’s lightning legs set off easier in HDR as well). and now I’m improving much more than I could have on GGPO.
When you play online you just have to have the right mindset, realize online play is different, and work on improving rather than just beating your opponent.–which often is a part of it (and also doing things that only work online to beat THEIR tactics which only work online, but just realize that’s the case.)
Yea…no sf4 arcade in atl 
Yeah, dude, this is pretty much entirely wrong. Maybe this is true with HDR, but there isn’t a “right mindset” that’s going to get you through most online SF4 matches short of “OH MY FUCKING GOD, CONSTANTLY PLAYING RETARD EASYMODERS IS SO EXCITING AND MENTALLY STIMULATING! YYYYYEEEEAAAHHHH!”.
Really, it’s most telling where the fighting game community is when everyone waxes gangsta about how you gotsta travel and level up and play a viariety of players if you want to get better… oh unless we’re talking about online SF4, then reality sunders itself and it’s now the exact fucking opposite and playing hordes of moron ryus and sagats (who clearly don’t have easy ultra lead-ins and a lack of downsides) is somehow an awesome training tool.
That’s kind of why these faggot “ragequit” threads are so suspect. I’d love to see everyone post their mains when they yap on about that shit because i’d seriously bet that the people who care most are, in fact, the very same repetitive, braindead wastes of time eveyone else is sick of playing. That disconnect percentage? Yeah, sorry to put a foil on the only boost to your self-esteem, but it’s not rage. It’s from pulling the plug at the char select screen.
In fact, that’s what makes these people scrubs in the truest sense of the word: they actually think that learning to deal with their bullshit is actually going to make anyone better for having done so. Wow, i can bait an SRK then punish (maybe, since the recovery time + invul frames is retarded)… i’m totally sure that’s going to help me against all those pros who place in tourneys by throwing constant and predictable wakeup DPs. It’s like playing the CPU that reads your inputs. It’s completely retarded and gets by on bullshit instead of any real ability, and you can’t play any sort of mental game because there’s no method to fuck with. Do you get better playing against the CPU? No? Then what makes some of you polesmokers think that putting up with online scrubbery is any better? Next up: Valle reveals his tournament regimen consists of playing CPU Seth 5 hours a day.
And where lag comes into play has to do with the fact that while Ryu isn’t really broken so much as he’s just really well-rounded (unlike Sagat), plenty of other chars pretty clearly aren’t and rely on precision and links. Oh what’s that? The game’s based on 17ms links? Sure, that’s impossible to fuck up with lag. Clearly, people who can’t hit windows like that with the added bonus of completely indeterminable amounts of lag just suck. I mean, it’s not like a ryu can scrub himself into a super that takes off 25+% with no effo… oh wait.
Between the idiotic link windows (in a 60 FPS game, awesome decision) that plenty of chars rely on, the moronic attributes of the DP, and the lag, there’s a noticeable and thick barrier in the progression of anyone trying to play online that doesn’t necessarily need to be there. Sure a pro can probably tool up shoto scrubs, but for others they can’t even get that good since, again, instead of actually practicing anything resembling what you morons think the game has, they’re busy having their time wasted with baited DPs, fireball runaways, and matches where they can try their damndest and still get screwed by a Sagat ultra that does more damage that you’ve done the entire match for far less effort than you put in to get it. And what do you get for punishing a shoto scrub for his stupidity, if you manage to be so much better that dropped inputs and blatant imbalances still aren’t enough to beat you? Another match with another shoto scrub who’s likely going to pull the same shit.
Welcome to the club. If it wasn’t for the fact I can’t get Marvel matchs going unless I pick out someone who I know plays somewhat and tell them to play with me, I wouldn’t play online. Since I don’t really have the choice I have to get what I can and deal with it.
What the op said is pretty much exactly why I don’t like online because “Everything is easier offline”
edit: I will say that getting match up experience with random people is great, but there is a point, that when you cross it, it becomes less about match up experience, and more about, I wouldn’t of missed that.
i don’t have anyone over for SF4, ever! sweden, stockholm have zero competition. i fought leivticus once and i beat him…while he was drunk…
To anybody that says there is no competition online, what the hell are you sniffing? The difference in skill from G2 to G1 is huge. In G2 that tough player would only be there at the final match, but in G1 that guy is there in the first fight.
Yes, yes, lag, timing, execution, whatever. If your fundamentals are down pat, the differences in timing is simply a matter of a minor adjustment. In a game with good a connection, there’s maybe less than ~50ms in the sensation of a delay. In other words unnoticeable and totally negligible.
I’m sorry but where the fuck do you live? Antarctica?
Even if there are no arcade machines in your area, unless you live in the middle of fucking nowhere there is gonna to be at least a few people that you can play with locally.
Playing locally on a console is just as legitimate as playing locally at an arcade.
Go to the matchmaking section of the forums or meet some people with an interest in games (if you are in college or high school you can start a fighting game club or something…), gather up with 2-3 other people that want to improve and play hard against each other.
Hey, yeah! Because we just established that playing the same people over and over is really good, so it stems to reason that one would go out of their way to do that.