It depends who you are playing. If you are playing scrubs then it doesn’t matter. But if you play locally with people who are serious about the game and playing, then of course you will level up. You have to put yourself in the position to get better by playing at a local arcade or weekly tournament with other people that care as much as you do. And if you don’t, then don’t play, or at least don’t complain.
That’s exactly the point. If you can do that, then you already have a fighting game scene. And the results are right infront of us as to what that’s done for the overall health of the genre in the US. Away from the coasts and maybe texas somewhere, actually doing anything like that means driving several hours out to the middle of Buttfuck, Nowhere where the stripmall rent is cheap enough to run an arcade that may or may not even have an SF4 cab since it didn’t actually get a US release.
Yeah, go pick up KOF12.
The 6-7 guys that play online are awesome.
I think KOF 12 is pretty good, for the record. But facts are facts.
play with people you know who live close online
a green bar match is pretty much zero lag
Yea I’m in the same situation as you, but I’m not quitting I just play much less then I want to. CE mode is a waste of time since it takes so long to get into a match half the time I’m trying to get into a match. Only fun thing is to play player matches, but there isn’t always someone to play.
hey i’m lookin for more ppl to play via player matches, tired of ce. we’ve played b4 i think. add me
ps3 tag : Donghammer
That’s a secondary problem too, because I played yesterday with someone from my country and there was no lag and fps drops, that was my first time with the gameplay flowing so fast and clean that I lost purely for not being accustomed to playing like that!
If all my matches were so fluid like that one, I could improve really
I think, imho, that SF4 potential for success has a strong handicap in network performance, the current problems are not the best way to attract and keep new players like me.
Some weeks ago I tested GGPO with Street Fighter 2 and spectated some matches, that client works very nicely and it’s almost like playing in same computer.
Maybe the “new” Super Street Fighter 4 has improved network code, because I’d pay only for that, no need for new game modes, stages and characters.
One frame link = 17 ms.
Green bar lag = ~20ms.
Green bar match = No one frame link combos, no late anti airs with normals.
Pretty much zero =/= zero.
Blame capcom for their crappy netcode and ranking system.
Online competition kick ass in several other game.
Seriously if online play had no crappy ranking and championship mode. PPl like you and me would create ladder and the competition would be better.But no one give a hell about this because they have it implemented into their multiplayer .
I think that whole ranking and championship crap hinder the online competition of street fighter IV … Having a ladder and a lobby etc … help enforce the camaderie and the community has a whole.
Like i said a billion time.My best competition online experience was in 1999-2000 playing quake 3 arena and rainbow six.This whole sf4 ranking system’s crap.
Don’t blame the player.
It’s seem like a good idea but it’s suck . Because it’s basicly a grind fest and position mean crap.
Let’s me tell you when i played the top position in rainbow six and challenged him … i know it’s was going to be a hell out of a match.
This is slightly on-topic I think…
http://wanfest.newegg.com/?page=tournament&tournamentid=2193
Someone should make a thread for it because I can’t.
Don’t usually experience shitty netcode/lag myself; I live near the netherlands and regularly play against people from the UK/Ireland- the latency is low enough to tech reliably, do ultras/srk’s on jump ins reliably and so on.
If you don’t have shitty infrastructure (which Ireland has, but anyway), play people you know and still have problems the issue may not be with the netcode.
Other than that I sympathise, there’s no sf4 scene where I live at all…actually there just was a local gamestop tournament recently with a handful of people attending but that’s about it.
Agreed to this. Online can make you better and can make you slighter worse if you are not careful and are too adjusted online. But if you have no competition on your area, online will overall make you better.
If you have alot of competition then you have to adjust from offline to online play and that can be very difficult.
In Japan, this terminology fails. They probably laugh that you play competitively and get better by online play.
This post encompasses a lot of my feeling towards this game. Good post IMO.
Yeah. Shit was deep.
finally someone said it! on top of it being roughly ~20 ms of lag even on green bar matches that doesn’t take into account that the bars ONLY represent 1 piece of the networking puzzle (ping time across public lines). the bars ignore things like packet loss, inner network traffic (this one really burns me up anymore since i moved back home while job searching… my family does NOT know how to use computers/internet so things are constantly downloading etc.)
then add that to the fact that you don’t even visibly SEE the lag until it gets to be extremly high and you have a ton of people sitting around wondering: does that really work? did i really screw up? was that the internets fault or mine? and seeing as how the vast majority of the player base plays online it’s an issue that needs addressing.
also because of things like console polling times, console processing times and tv upscaling even offline isn’t allways perfectly smooth.