There’s a limit to how aggressive you can be against characters like Ryu, Ken, and Akuma. I think it’s probably best just to focus on footsies for those matchups. I liked how you were playing in these videos, but I don’t think you should be throwing fireballs from so far away. I usually think of Juri’s fireballs as extensions of her limbs, using them to poke just outside of the max range of her normals.
**JURI - mid screen combo video (without FSE) and resets video **
hey guys,
heres a combo collection vid of extended juri combos from mid screen without using FSE
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added time links to the combo details in the description section. this way if u wanted to see a specific combo you can jump straight to it
let me know what u guys think
heres the vid explaining juris most common resets with some examples … (keep a look out for
the combo in the end) :
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hope you guys like the vids.
enjoy
Yeah, I agree about the fireball issue, a lot of people I play tell me I throw them from too far away haha. I need to throw them from a distance where it’ll reach them, but won’t get me jumped on as well.
One thought I had about fireballs: many Juri’s throw mid fireballs against other characters fireballs. This at first seems good, since it neutralizes the other players fireball, but with how slow Juri throws fireballs, its not actually the best option, since they can just keep chucking more plasma. A better option is to throw a low fireball, then deal with their fireball as usual. This way they also have to deal with your fireball that came under theirs, and they can’t just keep throwing more fireballs. Not very advanced idea, probably obvious to most, but something that I found helpful when fighting shotos.
yea, i think most of the decent juri players use this already. but this will be helpful to those that are new to her.
Nice videos mate, gave me new inspiration to work on my FADC combos and resets.
Out of curiosity, is there any particular reason for backdashing before dashing in the first combo?
Seems kind of unecessary to me, but hell, what do I know?
well there are many reasons …
- lets say you time the focus attack wrong … either too early or two late and the enemy gets to block or he doesnt crumple … that would make you vulnerable to an uppercut or something much worse if u dash forward … especially with shotos … so the back dash would be a safer option especially if you’re low on health
- theres acctually a huge window to land ultra 2 … if u noticed … i back dashed and dashed back in and it still connected in full so you have plenty of time to react
- a back dash would give u a better angle to land a jump forward into EX divekick … and from there u can either EX pinwheel or even ultra 2 (the combination of EX dive kick with ultra 2 deals more damage even with the scaling as opposed to just ultra 2 after focus)
- if you land it … chances are u dont really have much meter left to do a long combo anyway … so a dive kick with all kicks connected is pretty decent damage …
i hope that puts more insight to its practicalities … 
Hmm, sounds pretty pratical, I’ll give backdashing a shot next time I hit a FA, thanks for the insight ;D
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Here’s me doing badly lol.
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Some matches of my Juri in action. Against some of the people, please disregard the first round. As those were mainly for the purpose of figuring out how that person played (i.e. if they knew how to anti-air, how safe Juri’s moves were, etc). Feel free to critique~
Taking a look right now, good to see some more Juri vids.
EDIT: Watched the first link, you were pretty much on fire. All I’d say is finish your links more regularly lol, sometimes you’d just do cr.lk, stl.lk, far.st.lk. Unless there was a specific purpose for that?
EDIT 2: Vs Fei, you took a lot of risks with those Senpushas, but they all seemed to pay off, you’d catch him as he was FAing all the time. Vs Fei, I’d say perhaps poke more, with normals like st.mk and st.mp since they can stop Rekkas cold.
EDIT 3: Don’t think I’ve seen anyone pressure with Feng Shui like that before lol. Really good lock down. Was liking the normals you used to prevent him from diving, like far st.hk, which caught him early as he was trying to dive. Unfortunately, Rufus is just stupid. Juri can OS tech cr.hp against Dives, which you probably already knew, but it’s best done in moderation.
EDIT 4: Unlucky. I knew what you were trying to do with the Feng Shui activation at the end, but unfortunately, it didn’t work out.
Your Juri is pretty fresh! You take a lot of gambles and risks, but they seem to pay off more often than not. Which reminds me, I remember in another thread where you said people should start trying to be more fresh and try out new stuff with Juri lol.
I’ve got a long way to go Juri-wise.
Sometimes I just need a moment to think, so I use close.s.Short chain to start pushing people back, be it hit or block, I just wanted something to slow the tempo down so I could set something up in my head for something beastly =P I know far.s.Short can cancel to Senpusha and ex.Fuhajin, but against certain characters that I’ve never played against before, I don’t know if it works on everyone.
Against Fei Long, those 2 random Roundhouse.Senpusha were supposed to be me doing IADive Kick but came out as Senpusha instead -_-; FML, whatever. I’ll take it :tup: I’ll try s.Forward and s.Strong against Fei. I feel his footsies are more superior to Juri’s… But shrug I’ll give it a shot :tup:
Far.s.Roundhouse gets me into more trouble than helping =( c.Fierce OS crouch tech against Rufus Dive Kicks is something I try to avoid, 'cause then I eat counter hit if I guess wrong =( FML, they need to do something against that fucking Dive Kick -_-; It’s like +1,000,000 on BLOCK. I’ll figure something out though =\ And when I do, I’ll share with everyone else as usual :tup:
Yeah, I was trying to make the Dive Kick whiff completely because not many people know that FSE activation moves her forward.
Unfortunately, you’re right, Fei’s ground game in general is better than Juri’s. He’s really annoying in that regard, but I’ve had a bit of success with those normals. This is online though, so offline, I don’t know. And lol, so I’m not the only person who gets random Senpushas when going for IAD Dives! But it worked out, you always caught him during FA.
And yeah, you’re right, doing OS means gambling with getting nabbed by some dumb CH or something. Personally, though I really hate Rufus, I’d much rather fight him than Cammy lol. IMO, she’s worse than Rufus. By far, the most irritating character for me when I use Juri and for most of my other chars. And this is coming from a Cammy user too.
Juri has Kasatushi, but again, risky. Maybe jump back roundhouse, if they do it high enough, they could get tagged but I dunno about that. And I wouldn’t backdash against Cammy when she has Ultra 1 if the Cammy player knows what’s up, she can OS Ultra your backdash. There doesn’t seem to be a concrete way of getting out of dive pressure from those kind of characters, it’s just defend and pray you don’t get murdered. If there is, I’d love to know it haha.
Nice matches eiSH. Watching your FSE pressure made me think of what Juri could use as a buff to her fireballs. I dont know if this should go in the Juri Arcade thread or what.
IMO if Juri has a fireball stored, if she cancels into it, it should become the low version regardless of what button you have it charged with. This would open up her low kick so it would be possible to follow a successful O.H. w/ a LK and still combo into a FB later on, and then following up th FB w/ more FSE goodness. Would make for some good blocked pressure as well.
Outside of close Fierce, I cant think of why Juri would want to cancel into the MK & HK FB’s.
If Juri does a raw FB, she should get the angle’d versions and if she cancels into it she should get the low version. Sigh…probably will never happen tho.
In the Rufus vids I noticed you would dash fwd after a F.A, is that because you were just trying to rush down and maintain pressure? I dont know if this is common knowledge but if Juri lands a F.A crumple on Rufus and dashes back, she can jump fwd and land a j.MP. Then you can follow w/ a j.MP-DiveKick, into j.Fierce.
Might be dependant on distance tho
In arcade edition w/ the juggle potential of the FB-kick it might be possible to follow up w/ more juicy combos.
i like EISH juri. pretty fucking fresh!. he’s takes risks which sometimes payoff. i think ima start doing that myself. btw, i thought you used stick lol.
I can use both, but I prefer playing on pad sometimes. The main reason being that everyone stick is usually broken (mine included).
As for dashing forward, yeah. Regardless of crumple, I was just trying to maintain pressure.
Also, the reason to start canceling normals into high fireball, it doesn’t really work out for me in the Ryu match, but usually I would lock people down in the corner with c.Forward/Strong Fireball release/EX that after the pressure is let up just a little, most players have a tendency to not want to get caught in that kind of string again, so they will jump. Which is when you would mix up a normal xx Roundhouse.Fuhajin store and randomly try to get 'em out the air. It’s not a bad thing to shoot for either since you’re still safe at the right distance and can apply pressure without them doing much of anything.
Finished watching all the videos, your Juri is really sweet, eiSH. I really liked the way you pressure in the corner, and that FSE pressure against Rufus was extremely awesome, corner rape all around.
I really need to start using FSE.
YOSSANN’s Juri is extremely good, and it’s definitely worth a watch! His usage of FSE is really inspiring.
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