ya, I dont think ive ever run into a gief I didn’t have a problem with.
just don’t slide in, use soul spark and st.hk and have good footsies and you should always win.
slide is punishble by spd
Rose vs. Zangief isn’t really a problem for Rose, as long as you keep him out with your normals, and try to avoid using moves that are SPD-punishable on block such as slide and Spiral. If you’re going to do strings, stick with Spark strings. St.hk and Soul Piede (f+HK - helpful for punishing whiffed Lariats, and AA’ing from a distance not within c.fierce range), are moves that should help Rose a lot in this match-up as well.
On a different note, I found a recent video showcasing FUCU T2’s Rose:
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At 5:48 - Blanka vs. Rose
At 11:01 - Cammy vs. Rose
cammy vs rose is such a stupid match.
It’s bad but not that horrible. Rufus is much worse IMO.
Here is a match I had against Mike Ross at WNF about a month ago. Let me know what you all think.
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2 Urian matches from the Kanagawa-Chiba 39vs39 :
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he does fare rather well against a tougeki-level sagat, that’s encouraging !
=( you had him if you didn’t miss the setup. If you don’t mash out the shortcut motion for dp(after mashing out slide), it’s hard to hit the timing for the setup. But you were spot on for the u2 timing after the backthrow. Other than that, only 2 things that were really glaring were:
-fireballs from not fullscreen.
-learn the safejump timing for backthrow. It’s not that hard. If you do do the forward throw, i think you can whiff a cr. forward and then delay a throw but i don’t see a reason not to do the backthrow instead.
Really close match between me and RamenAddict:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYdM3jymX5Y
If I didn’t drop Spiral after c.fierce towards the end of the third round, who knows what could have happened.
favorite part? first round heavy spiral >>ex spiral ahahahhhah the fact that that works is just funny to me. i use it too. its funny being able to train them to only jab punish bad spirals lol.
i wish i didnt destroy all my pp by playing makoto ranked so I can play some higher level players with rose.
Tokido playing with Rose
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Interesting Rose play by Tokido, I didn’t know he even used Rose. I’d really like to see more of his Rose, he plays aggressively. Not surprising seeing Akuma is his main.
Yeah, Tokido isn’t so bad with Rose, would be interesting to see some of his matches with her.
Anyways, here’s a match of Jiban from earlier today…always rocking the Ultra 1 as of late. lol, that maybe why his PP is constantly around 4600 instead of 5400 like he used to have when he only picked ultra 2, I’m just saying. 
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too bad this ken doesn’t know that cr.strong > spiral cr. strong > spiral strings don’t work as well anymore. If ken times his cr. strong after the first cr.strong spiral string, it will trade with rose’s cr. strong. That and he didn’t step kick as much. So hard to punish step kick as rose. On block your ownt b/c its a throw shoryuken fifty fifty.
Probably preparing for AE where Orbs will be horrible.
Orbs aren’t horrible, just lost ONE use >.>
Was looking for a critique thread, didn’t find one so I will post here.
I wish to pick up Rose, I always liked her a lot, and being Italian with Rose in my name I feel obligated to use her. I know she is getting some horrible nerfs in AE, but I’m willing to accept that as I’ve worked with far worse characters before in other fighters.
Before I post my stuff I have some questions:
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My main is Bison but I almost never use him online anymore, I like to keep him pure for offline and it helps a lot. My connection is less than ideal and it’s impossible for me to do his cr lk x 3 xx sk online while offline it’s cake and I don’t plink. It’s frame two, so what bnbs will I not be able to do online with Rose? I heard she even has a few frame one combos even. I like to use characters online and get enough MU exp before retiring them to be pure offline, so I plan to use Rose online for some time.
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I was told to use heavy kick soul spiral as it is the safest. Is it unsafe on block? IIRC when I looked at frame data before it says it is, but I’ve seen Roses get away with it many times… is it because she spaced it correctly or because it’s harder to punish stuff online. Also iirc ex soul spiral does same amount of damage as heavy soul spiral? Was that a typo in a guide? Very confused.
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Is EX soul spiral a legit reversal? I like to backdash with Rose but I can’t abuse it or I know I’ll start getting OS’d…
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Rose’s cross up… is it mk?
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Rose seems very floaty… with some of my characters as mix ups I might like to do a neutral jump and see if I can get a hit confirm off that… this isn’t viable with Rose right?
with that said here she is… I only used her for a week so I have much to learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hVad8PAS80 (connection acted up a bit… lol @ round two game was messing up my U2 input -.-)
As you see I don’t jump in on people as Rose… and for crossup… with her I should only attempt after a knockdown? I’m unsure and need advice, I’m afraid to because her floaty jump screams “anti air me” but maybe im wrong?
oh and bonus- her alpha theme on piano haha. I posted this before but I closed my account for sometime. I re-uploaded it. I’ll do her SF4 theme later, but I think her alpha theme is the best character theme overall.
thanks in advance.
Her bnb is cr.lp, cr,lk, cr.mp XX spiral. The cr.lk, cr.mp part is a one frame link. As far as one frame links go, it’s not really that hard, you should be able to use it online if you figure out the timing offline. You want to combo into lk.spiral when you start the combo point blanc or when you have no meter and into EX when you connect after a cross-up. hk is the safest of the spirals (still not safe when you misuse it) but only useful by itself or when comboed into from hp because it’s too slow to combo from cr.mp at most ranges. EX works as a reversal but it gets beaten out by anything with long active frames. You can throw it out once in a while if you can fadc it but honestly it’s a waste of meter.
J.mk is her cross-up, but if you use her bnb after a cross-up j.mk you risk not reaching with lk.spiral, which is hardly ever punished, but good players should be able to. This is why you should use EX after certain jump-ins, EX is really fast and goes a bit farther. You should avoid finishing a blocked combo with a spiral, especially lk.spiral. What you could do is substitute the spiral with a spark, use normals to frametrap your opponent or just stop and block :). Proper spacing can make all spirals pretty safe, most of the time. Experience will teach you when to use spirals outside of combos.
Neutral jump has its place, but Rose doesn’t have the low reaching jump attacks some other characters (Adon, Sakura) have to make it a big part of her gameplan.
Sorry for the wall of text.
Don’t apologize for helping me, lol! I’m just a little confused, so you are saying that light kick soul spiral can be safer than hk soul spiral when it is point blank?
No, definitely not. What I’m saying is that all spirals are unsafe at that range, but hk comes closest to being safe. Hk spiral doesn’t work as the ender in her bnb though, it’s too slow. You should only be using lk or EX in that situation, depending on the spacing. Lk will combo against the entire cast when you start the combo right next to your opponent or when you connect after a frontal jump-in. EX will almost always connect, even after a cross-up -> bnb, which is where lk spiral sometimes doesn’t.