Yeah…I see a lot of people do c.mp in unsafe situations though. I’ve only played a couple mirror matches but it seems like everybody relies on slide>c.mp>drill too much. They slide, I c.lp on reaction every time and it never gets beat, and good players will figure that out really quickly. I’m currently trying to increase my reaction time to be able to hit-confirm off of just a slide…but I think I’m going to need to start doing coke for that to happen
I suppose this is discussed in several other threads so pardon me for insisting, but is Ryu’s autocorrect shoryuken 100% reliable?
I know that if he does it as a reversal he’ll just fly the wrong way. So he needs to delay the punch input until after Rose crossed him. Can’t I surprise him by anticipating my jumping attack, so that I hit him just before he presses the punch button?
Hey guys, I have some videos of my Rose to share. My friend was recording while we were playing online. I definitely missed some combos and other opportunities, but any comments or critiques are welcome.
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BTW, I’m really enjoying all of the videos being posted here, especially Luffy’s. Great stuff! :tup:
Well… you can surprise him. But in tourney i won’t take that risk, getting reverse srk to u1 coz of a crossup hurt.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. 
Anyways, I spent some time in training mode to test various anti-hadoken strategies. My findings are:
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Ex spiral doesn’t work against lp hadoken, unless you have superhuman timing. There’s a 1 or 2 frame window to execute it, you must do it at the very last moment and the hado hitbox always seems to hit you earlier than it should. So I think it’s totally impractical.
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Super works. You must do it much earlier than the ex spiral, so I guess you have to be already buffering the motion and have good reaction times to confirm the button press. Does 250 damage.
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Ultra 1 works but you have to do it even earlier than the super, so you have to be buffering the input already unless you are a superhero. Not worth choosing ultra 1 just to do that imo.
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But the best method I found so far is, surprisingly, a level 1 focus attack. It works at more than half-screen distance (!), but you have to release it as early as possible so that you hit Ryu when his hands are still extended. I swear his hitbox becomes so huge when he’s throwing a hadoken, you can hit him from surprisingly far away.
The hardest part is the timing, you have to tap (and release instantly) mp+mk considerably before you get hit by the hado. But the timing is much easier than ex spiral, and you don’t need to buffer anything. Does 60 hp damage, no crumple.
Also note that it will not work if you are already charging a focus attack, it has to be a completely uncharged level 1 (when charging it Rose’s hitbox becomes smaller, so the hado willbe absorbed much later, and Ryu’s hand will be retracted by the time it hits).
if you’re counter-poking a slide with a jab, you don’t really need to react to do more substantial damage. just buffer LK spiral as an option-select. if you whiff, no spiral; if you hit, spiral. Iunno if it’ll actually combo, but considering it’s a counter-poke, then it’s probably a counter-hit, so I’d say your chances are good. it’d at least be safer than blocked c.mp xx spiral.
Good Rose imo…
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–Heh. Rose Barely starts sliding forward by the time the invincibility has worn off. It’s still 11 frames. no fireball is that slow. Treat EX Drill like a dodge and you’ll be ok.
–Super does 300 if you arrange it so her scarf throws PAST the fireball and not through it. It is also better since the super won’t slow down. Either the fireball will pass through you, or you’ll get hit… which is good, because it saves you about 31 frames of recovery animation. Feel free to dash forward and attempt to juggle with ultra.
–Please never pick ultra 1 to deal with fireballs. For the love of God, man… you’re ROSE. You have your own fireballs that build TWO to THREE times more meter than everyone else, you have absorb that gives you half a stock or reflects it back to them, you have a slide that can go under them, a super that can punish them, and EX drill that can go through them.
– Her level one focus is 21 frames startup. Even if you hit, it’s only 60 damage and you have to dash back (dash forward is unsafe), resetting the match. If you FA, aborbed on frame 1, and dashed, it’s be 20 frames to dash out of teh FADC and 3 to C.Jab. 23 total. What’s the better option?
So you’re stuffing slides w/ C.LP? Weird. Low short is oodles better even at one frame slower. No vulnerable hitbox during active frames. Not to mention you won’t get negative edge Fireball, Soul Throw, or Super. EDIT TO MYSELF: Because you can’t cancel low short, dumbass. Hitbox is godlike though, try doing C.LK, C.MP/MK You can’t hit confirm one jab/short, but you can empty buffer spirals. Although for empty buffer CH setups, short spiral is probably bad. Travels the shortest and least safe.nI think you’d have to use EX to make sure you covered the distance.
BTW Fun fact: Rose can’t super while orbs are out, but she can fireball.
haha yeah, found that out the hard way when going orbs->crossup mk->c.hp->super…wtf soul throw ?
I fianlly uploaded some new Rose videos.
If anyone is interested ive uploaded some of my rose matches.
I haven’t played this game in 6 months and I’m still trying to get used to her ultra 2.
vs Ryu. using Rose’s Ultra 2
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All my new videos
Videos of my matches from Midwest Championships 2010:
Top 33! 
Rose Soul Satellite Mirror (just 4 lols, so random and orbs flying everywhere!):
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Some matches found on “justin tv” between a Rose and an Adon player who rapes Mago and gameinn in some other videos
oh my god!! what an amazing Rose… :china:
That was fantastic. Thanks for posting it.
That guy was pretty good. Super defensive though. Is there nothing Rose can do against “Tooth pressure”?
rose can knock Adon out of Tooth with Cr.HP.
maybe it’s just me, but I find that to be pretty risky, would rather neutral jump it.
It’s funny to think how, and this was mentioned in that ultra debate thread, U1 would prevent Adon from (ab)using Jaguar tooth. that shit it so slow
Seems like no one know they can ultra between c mp and spiral !