Satellite was really anti-climatic… everyone’s getting these zaney new Ultras and we get that?
I really don’t see them leaving it as weak as it currently stands. Either we’ll get an extra orb or two, the orbs will no longer dissipate on block (albeit at the expense of doing much/any chip) or they will increase the damage slightly. I think they should give full float state on hit against airborne opponents but I guess that could be debatable or situational.
I like the idea of LP Reflect absorbs giving you an extra orb up to n amount in theory but in practice that just means you don’t even have the option of getting extra orbs against half the cast.
It would be nice if it is/was made into overheads but I don’t see that happening and don’t recall the orbs hitting mid in the couple videos from the LVFC I’ve seen of her. I do see, however, the possibility for amazingly ambiguous crossup setups, unusual resets and a very safe way to close out rounds without putting yourself too far into harm’s way.
They definitely need to get rid of the limitation preventing you from using Super while Satellite is active. I hope this was just for the demo build to make sure no glitches popped up but I guess we will wait and see. Basically, I see potential which hopefully won’t be squandered. Even if it is I can’t wait to get my hands on Soul Satellite and find some stupid bullshit impractical combos.
Side note: Cody’s knife and rock will be the first non-plasma/fire based projectiles in the SF4 series. I don’t recall off the top of my head what happened in the Alpha series when Rose attempted to Reflect them, can anyone give my memory a bump?
Yes. Rose could not absorb Cody’s Bad Stone. If she attempted to use any variation of Reflect, the stone would simply bounce off and she would take no chip damage. She could not absorb it for meter or cause it to go back to Cody. Curiously, she could absorb and reflect Rolento’s knives as if they were fireballs.
I think the way that Reflect currently works, she would take damage by trying to absorb or reflect the projectile. It appears in the latest videos that they’ve modified active frames Reflect a bit as the player of Rose was able to fierce Reflect a Hadoken without trying to time it.
I just think there should be more orbs. I don’t even think lp reflect would work all the time, what if the fireball would hit the orb before you could absorb it?
And the fact that you can’t even use Aura SS is ridiculous and proves that they want Rose to stay low tier. Because if you could actually use Soul Satellite and cross up, hitting them regardless of block because of the orbs it would be a great way to land Aura SS for free…that still would leave you without Ultra or Super, so I don’t see why that would be so bad.
Still, we don’t really know how you can use it yet, but right now it looks like I’m going to keep using Illusion Spark…if only you could combo into that now, but I doubt it.
My thoughts on it are as follow.
Lame that it can Trade
Great that it can extend a combo without using meter
Lame that I dont control the orbs (I have to judge the rotation timing if I wanna use it as extra hit stun)
Lame that I have to follow it
Lame that i cant throw them
Lame that they can be blocked…
Cool that it will do at least 300 damage
Unsure if its unscaled…
Great that its defensive
Lame that the orbs arent absolute defense, as a hit after it passes your front will probably hit you…
Lame that it starts up so cool and dramatic…
Here’s a video of me vs Dr. Chaos, aka America’s Ken, aka Philly Tea Boss during some casuals at Kattamari’s house. Check out the kara focus cancel to kara throw at the end of one of the rounds. His Ken is just so nice.
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I see some Saqsy tricks in there
I played Chaos first round at SB4. His Ken is damn good ;).
Thanks Saqs. Yeah he told me he played you and porkloaf at SB4. And he plays me. He’s going through the east coast Rose gauntlet :nunchuck:
the last 2 matches that were recorded.
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Ok weekend roundup. I’m trying to fit this in one post. First, one Friday at Tea Boss Challenge #5 I didn’t get to play Skye to record some matches because there was a bunch off people outside the Philly scene that showed up including Sanford and Andre. First match of the tourny I played a Bison player. Only the second match is recorded. It was an easy match so in the second set I tried some stupid things I would not normally do.
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Then I played Philly’s own, Julian who played Boxer. I rarely get to play a good Boxer and that match up you have to play entirety different imo. So it took me a while to remember and by then it was too late. I had a great match vs Demon Hyo’s Blanka which went to the final round. I’ll try to see if I can get that match up recorded next time.
http://www.youtube.com/user/davedsrk#p/c/096027A91D628EAE/11/6-VlFJ8TwJY
At around 3 am I played Sanford’s Sagat first to three. I was only able to get 2 rounds. That match wasn’t recorded either but if he shows up next time I will try to.
Second. On Saturday at Grand Master Monthly, I got 5th place. I ended up losing to Skye and Mr. 2df Damdai who was there to show off his new tonamento which is pretty awesome. Both the matches were not recorded on the stream but I was able to record them with my phone.
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I’ve never faced a Ken in tournament play except for Dr. Chaos and Damdai’s is totally different which threw me off guard.
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For a better video of Honda here’s Dr. Chaos vs Skye
http://www.youtube.com/user/Kangirisung#p/u/18/b1oTn8UVMwI
I know its a long post but its only one. I hope you enjoy :karate:
Thanks a lot for those vid :). I’m enjoying it, the quality is very good, as the level
Nice vids Dave D. The match with Julian’s Rog at 3:13, thats one of my main problems with FA’s i hate that ur at disadvantage like that.
I peeped ur cr.lk,cr.mp links good stuff i have a love/hate for that link it cant turn a match around in a clucth postison but it can get u killed if u f’up though.
An alternate for it is cr.lk,cr.lpxxdrill its only 20 pointes difference(good for snagging a win towards end of a tough match when health is low) but the thing is that its a chain for the complete combo so if some one mashes or reacts to u messing up with a move with invinc frames ur done. Good stuff though man we got play play sometime.(after i practice lol)
So I haven’t played and recorded for about a month and since I’m getting ready for TvC, here are some Rose/Chun battles from 1-24-10:
Nice vids. I like the ultra finish at the end of the 3rd set lol. Chun’s pokes are too gdlk. But at least she’s not robo Chun :shake:
I’ve definitely learned to be more defensive (and airborne) against good Chuns. Something I’ve accepted as a rule is let Chun poke first. Her sweep beats just about everything of Rose’s, but if she whiffs it, you can hit her with your own poke/combo (c.MP!) during its recovery period. I hate fast sweeps so much. I think that’s why they invented focus attack.
Psychochronic, nice vids.
I actually first saw some of your videos while I was looking through the ones posted in the SFA3 section. I started watching them because you use Charlie, my main in SFA.
I ended up these forums, lurking mostly, because I’m thinking about adding Rose to my squad. I’m originally a Sakura player but I’ve been recently trying to learn Dhalsim and El Fuerte.
A Rose combo video showing everything I could think of: [media=youtube]ocLSKuGzBC8[/media]
there are many more variations ofcourse, but this should be the gist. Did forget the S MK to C Lp one tho, I like that one.
Very useful post Acku. Would rep if I could.
I learned a lot of the bnb’s with Rose that I haven’t seen much of. I’m definitely gonna practice a lot of these mixups.
Acku, good shit man. I am “inspired” by these solid mix-ups and combos. I think I have down a fairly solid Poke/Footsies game…I just need punishes and reaction time for them to be better.
Like I said on your UTube page, I would habve like to have seen some more 1Frame Links. I can do most (s.MP>c.MPxxSprial still gives me a bit of trouble…) but would have like to have seen if you could have found more. I have tried to get more , but most of them just don’t seem worth it…
Thanks again man!
Great stuff in here, thanks everyone for posting these vids. I’m new to the game and learning alot about Rose from watching these. Acku’s combo vid has been a great study guide. Thanks and keep it coming!