Good set. Watched it earlier. Pretty convinced this is 6-4. U2 changes the whole match.
6-4 makoto b/c u2 shuts down rose fireball?
6-4 rose b/c u2 shennanigans = free corner throw pressure?
6-4 rose because rose’s footsies > makoto
6-4 rose because Rose u2 negates makoto’s pressure
6-4 rose because if makoto has U2, Rose not being able to use soul spark won’t matter much (I think soul spiral is more dangerous for makoto than rose’s fireball tbh)
6-4 rose because if Rose has U1 makoto can’t jump / do axe kicks (specially when they space it perfectly to do be able to do some in succession)
6-4 rose because Rose can force makoto to use her U2 as an escape tool if she’s being pressured in the corner
6-4 makoto because she has the comeback factor against Rose
6-4 makoto because she has the damage
6-4 makoto because Rose can’t jump on makoto (thus negating some of her corner tricks)
Certainly not in Roses favor. Shiro agrees but he’s biased. I’m not though lol.
imo Rose’s favor.
she’s not stupid like Yun or Yang where her rushdown + damage are both easy af. >>
- Rose footsies are overated in this matchup IMO as they are negated easily by the threat of EX Hayate/Axe Kick
- U2 as defense wont save you unless you have space which means you are out of Makotos pressure zone (in your face) anyway.
- Makotos U2 is pretty much an anti pressure tool along with being anti FB. Applying wake up pressure is pretty much thrown out the window as well
- U1 is a dynamic I havent explored in the match up honestly so i cant speak on it.
- Makoto using U2 when cornered is pretty much always an escape tool
Her U2 is a big game changer to me because once she has it you pretty much have to play mega lame. Something I cant seem to do lol.
I’m pretty sure meaty cr. LK and the like are safe against U2. Throw attempts and cl. MK definitely get blown up though. U2 is a safe escape option but once she uses it to escape pressure, she no longer has as an anti-FB tool nor a reversal.
Makoto can try to stuff Rose’s pokes with cr. MP and cr. LK buffered into Hayate so it’s not like she’s helpless. Axe Kick as an option for beating st. HK is there, as Shiro demonstrated but I don’t think it’s a huge factor.
Actually surprised Kesh didn’t go for much st. HK at all. Perhaps he was worried about Shiro FADCing through or jumping in and bopping Rose on the head? I’m not sure.
One thing neither of you guys have mentioned is that U2 is great for catching Rose’s backdash. Of course it requires a good read but it’s safe on whiff. It’s not a game-changing option but it’s something worth noting.
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This new youtube has me a bit confused on how to make new playlists but I did some Rose ranked matches the other day in tribute to sk222 (I was supposed to go to a tournament today, and I was going to use her) but yea if you guys want to check them out
take care!
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That FT15 that was posted earlier, here it is on youtube
So, here’s a video of my second match in my first tournament. 3v3 teams, best 2/3, double elimination.
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Disregard the fact that I don’t tech throws or AA properly. Any thoughts? Anton, this is your chance to blow me up.
There’s nothing to critique other than not teching throws, really. It’s why you lost, haha. He got almost all of his damage from throws.
Also slide under those head stomps.
I’ll blow the Bison up and then you up when I get back from school <3.
Mostly the Bison because Bison shouldn’t be giving up rounds ;D.
If you play on psn i can help you with that bison match up.
No console and I’m living in Hong Kong right now. Connection would be ass.
I usually don’t play so horribly against Bisons. In fact, that guy was several cuts down from the level of Bison that I usually play. I derped out hard.
I only started seriously playing rose a couple of weeks ago so i suppose this would be the place to ask for comments on my game. First match against a Dudley was about 3 weeks ago
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This cammy match was yesterday
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Need help to not be ass
Work on your oki. You wasted your knockdowns by simply throwing fireballs. Didn’t help that you did that against Dudley and Cammy who both have ways to get around fireballs especially since you mistimed them.
Throw fireballs less. Players with decent reactions will punish you for chucking plasma. Rose has better ways of keeping opponents out anyways.
Stop sliding in at point blank. I shouldn’t have to explain this.
AA dive kicks with EX Soul Throw. If you can’t AA in time, at least FA backdash them to get out of pressure. You let that Cammy get in on you way too easily.
Use your pokes. You let that Cammy whiff normals and walk at you. She shouldn’t be able to do that against Rose. Same thing with the Dudley. You weren’t keeping him out.
Quit eating random level 2 FAs. Backdash, EX Spiral, jump away, EX Soul Spark. Do anything, just stop derping out and don’t let yourself get hit by dumb shit.
cool thanks. didn’t play much AE between these two match. Need to stop being stupid 
It happens.
Take what I say with a grain of salt since I’m not very good, but here is an attempt at a couple helpful comments. In the Dudley match he seemed to be anticipating your slide a lot with focus, you could have thrown out more safe spirals as pokes. Also a couple of your spirals were misspaced I think—either they whiffed or hit too deep. In the first round he tried to lvl3 FA you on wakeup when you had U1, you could have had a free wakeup ultra because even if he dashed out of the FA U1 would still have hit I think.
In the Cammy match some of your punishes could have been more consistent. In the first round for instance you could have won after her cannon strike with the right punish combo. Later you tried to punish a spiral arrow with cr.hp spiral, but the spiral arrow was spaced safeish and it didn’t work—maybe a throw or hitconfirm would have been better.