The Feds have no idea what’s going on in Ferguson. Know how I know that? Because the Obama administration had no idea Gov. Nixon sent the National Guard there.
Out of all the cases we’ve seen, with more evidence then this case of wrong doing, i’m actually kinda shocked how this is maintaing such a movement for over a week now, when in other cases people were just like, rabble rabble, argh, that sucks. It cant be the timing, because the timing has never been an issue before.
And With this post you absolutely confirmed what I have been saying and what I suspected from you from the very beginning; that you were coming into this conversation just as prejudiced and as closed-minded as the people you were railing against.
You come out here spreading all of this bullshit about people being unwilling to believe any other idea that this murder could have been motivated by race, and now it comes out that you yourself had doubts from the very beginning that this murder was racially motivated because you’ve heard so many black people that you are less inclined to believe it. Like I said from the very beginning; hypocrisy.
Every bit of your posts from very beginning has been driven by an agenda to downplay the possibility of race playing a possible part in this case, and that any other explanation would be reasonable to explore.
-There could have been a struggle for the gun and he shot him after the threat had subsided. It wasn’t done out of race.
-This could have been a symptom of how cops treat everybody as a whole, excessive force but not racially motivated.
-He could have been a Capcom fan and was pissed that they don’t listen to the fans.
-He could have been upset because he couldn’t find the missing piece of the Triforce.
And for the record I must say the obvious I agree with you about the police state and how cops are often too willing to use excessive force as a means to show their superiority. And they will often use that against all communities; mostly poor communities. However, as usual you try to whitewash the idea of a possible racial component involved in police misconduct. It’s a general problem, but racial injustice is an issue that is overstated.
You also know what else I noticed? That you seemed to be only appalled by the use of military force by the rioters, not so much because of what is happening at Ferguson. No, because it was the implications that it could happen in all neighborhoods. The problems in that town seemed secondary to your fears that it can happen to all communities.
Plus once again, you wanted us to have an openmind that the possibility that this cop was a good cop who didn’t have a racist bone in his body, good premise. But in terms of Michael Brown, even from the beginning before the details of the robbery came out, you wanted us to ignore the reports of him being a good guy or in your words when you hear news outlets say this it “makes you want to puke.” Oh but you’re not biased. Now that makes me want to puke.
Plus please stop calling your conclusion, “speculation.” Because that’s what it is, a hypothesis/ conclusion. You might be upfront and say that this could be wrong, hey because my conclusion about this situation could be wrong too. But just like everybody else on this board and in this discussion, we came to a decision, based on the information that was provided to us by the witnesses and the police officers. And just like all conclusions or opinions, even if you admit that they could be wrong, once you state it to the public you can no longer claim objectivity and you open up your statements to critique and you showed who you prefer. What you’re trying to do is protect yourself and not allow people to explore your biases and whose side you prefer. And whose side of the story you prefer? Oh yeah the cops.
Which leads me to you defense of your obvious shilling of the official police statement.
because in the words of the man himself; this is the face I give to somebody who is stunningly, astonishingly, bafflingly full of bullshit.
First off the second sentence is a logical fallacy because the cop’s side of the story didn’t mention him stating whether or not this was a “justifiable homicide.” What was reported by the police from his side of the story was that there was said to have been a struggle for the gun, the cop maintained possession of the gun, he chased after Brown there was a shooting, Brown was wounded and died at the scene of the shooting.
Here is another thing I noticed; you inferred that Wilson shot Brown after the threat had ceased based on the official chronology of events that was provided by the police. Indeed if you believe the entire chronology there is only one conclusion; that he shot Brown after the struggle had subsided. But like I said you have to believe the statement you were provided by the media.
The conclusion you drew about the shooting was exactly verbatim what the police said. There was no skepticism whatsoever from what was given by the police. This was a deliberate attempt at trying to deceive everybody who read this bullshit you wrote. Just because the cops didn’t outright call his label his actions you count that as an omission of facts, and distract us from the fact that you accepted the exact chronology of his events? Last time I checked an omission would be leaving out key EVENTS.
Here is something else. If you honestly believe that he omitted facts, then why do you believe anything he said? Wouldn’t that call into question every explanation of his events if he got caught lying by omission wouldn’t you fucking question everything else, including if there were a struggle? Sure he might have been telling the truth, but wouldn’t cause you to think twice about his credibility about everything he said? Once again, confirmation bias at it’s finest.
Plus thank you for clarifying what I felt was a contradiction about understandable not meaning right. But you know what the other part of my statement I believe to be true: that you were still grasping for an alternative excuse to justify it not being a possible execution and based on some form of hate. Indeed that was your intentions from the beginning because immediately upon given that excuse you made a sweeping generalization about all the people who believe that this murder being racially motivated believes everybody else who doesn’t hold that view are racist. Wide sweeping overgeneralization? Oh wait but I’m open-minded.
Speaking of wide sweeping overgeneralizations I will say something else; you made a statement earlier in the thread that could be only construed as racist. You were discussing about problems in the deficiencies in the “black community,” and what you viewed as our failure to have a desire to change our streets and lower the crime rate in our community, or in your words we are accepting and are indifferent to the crimes in the “black community.” There isn’t a week or a month or a day that doesn’t go by where we don’t lament the crime rate in the hoods and how many young black males turn to a life of crime instead of getting a square gig or go to school so they can join the middle class. We are often accepting that we are the only ones who can change our streets. We often have youth organization and college readiness programs and fatherhood initiatives that stress the importance of education, the trap of gang and crime life and not taking care of our kids. We lament that so many brothas aren’t trying to educate themselves, and the community in general are on the ground every fucking day trying to make a difference to end the quandary in our black ghettos. For you, you two-faced phony piece of shit to come on here and claim that we as a community is not trying to fix our problems and are as a whole and using certain examples of people playing the blame game of “the white folks is holding us down,” and not say shit about the fact that we know that we need to look in the mirror to change our communities and that there aren’t people everyday who are trying to improve our streets speaks of a man who is basing their fucking opinion on prejudices and a negative view of the entire race. That’s why I’m going to call you out.
Because after being here for seven years, you should know writing a wall of text isn’t going to be read. And if you were going to do it anyway, put it in spoilers so the rest of us don’t have to scroll down.
Obama is where he’s always been. In the pocket of the cops.
You’ll never, ever see a democrat speak ill of cops because they’re all on the take from them. Remember that story back in 2008 or 2009 where cops arrested a black man for trying to break into his own house? And when Obama said “well come on now, have some damn sense” the cops were up in arms and he immediately backtracked?
The democrats are shills for the cops because they’re being paid off.
The republicans are too stupid to call this out because they’re shills for free.