Shut up.
So I’m sure you would be fine with people in your neighborhood destroying/stealing your property over something the police did?
Please don’t let Al Sharpton show up.
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Hahahaha. First of all you don’t really have a safe neighborhood anyway when those who are supposed to protect you are the ones committing crimes. Everyone here is focusing on the looters so let’s focus on them for a second. Would I want someone to tear up my property for something the police did? Nope, but it seems to me like more of you are focused on the looting as opposed to the actual shooting. So the looting is a problem but the fact that the police or government of that community have yet to tell anyone who the officers involved were is rarely brought up.
Did people start looting and causing disruptions because they just felt like it? Of course not, you have a group of bad seeds that are looting doing dumb stuff but you get that in most riots such as the OWS riots in Europe a few years ago. I, personally, like to focus on the source of the problem. It’s not like the city is safe even if there were no looters anyway. So let’s focus on the nest shall we people?
By the way, BEWD’s idea of a strong economic base is the only thing that will really get things right in the black community. That is the only thing that will reign in the politicians and the corrupt cops.
you know damn well he is
Who exactly is calling for anything to be ignored here, if not you? The full details of the shooting aren’t even out yet, but these rioting fucks heard what they wanted to hear and went crazy. Even assuming the worst (that the cop just blasted this kid out of the blue without so much as eye contact), what exactly does rioting and looting prove other than reinforcing the sort of suspicion that might lead a cop to assume a YBM in such a neighborhood is a violent thug?
As for your proposed solution, how exactly do you expect neighborhoods where business owners are afraid of riots and looting (not to mention the usual crime associated with urban neighborhoods) to form a “strong economic base”? If “things are to be made right”, the community in question must stop viewing this sort of behavior as acceptable. Reinforcing negative stereotypes, much less doing so proudly and defending them, does the black community no favors.
Racist people use the term chimpout so…nope, you’re pretty weak on this one.
YES MORE RIOTS PLEASE
MORE CHAOS
FRANK MILLER WAS RIGHT
Heard what they wanted to hear? The people of that community are wanting answers and it’s the police force and the government that are not forth coming with answers. Mike Brown got shot over the weekend and it won’t be until Tuesday afternoon (possibly) until they tell who the shooting officer was that set things off. The government and police force could have come out long before now and did something more substantial.
Now when you say if we are assuming the worse if you are saying that **“rioting and looting prove other than reinforcing the sort of suspicion that might lead a cop to assume a YBM in such a neighborhood is a violent thug?” ** then couldn’t you also assume, if the worse is true, that the cop(s) are reinforcing the suspicion that YBM’s mean little in our society and that black males are discriminated against just for being YBM’s? What you are proposing is turning the other cheek but how can you do that when those who are meant to protect society are the start to the destruction?
As far as my solution you are looking at this behavior as if it has never happened before in society. Slave rebellions, riots during the Civil Rights Era and acts of that nature produced many of the results that got black people the rights we have today. Countries like Haiti are independent from French oppression because of riots and rebellions. In order to form the strong economic base the first goal is to make sure you can go about obtaining economic independence without worrying about dealing with issues from the people who are supposed to be protecting you. No one is defending the looters, who are taking with no agenda but greed, but when you have riots and situations like this it happens. As I said before, it happened in the Watts riots, the Rodney King riots, the Occupy Wall Street riots in Europe and many more so don’t make the argument that the it is something specific to the black community. It is a collateral damage that happens during riots.
Not every protest involves looting. It’s not something that is to be expected and accepted.
Why are they looting the stores? Makes more sense to blockade the police station or something if they want to make a point. Police aren’t doing much for their rep here tho, heard they’ve basically locked the city down in martial law type quarantine now. If media can’t get in or out, who really knows whats going on in there
They made all media leave and threatened many reporters with jail time according to these reporters on Twitter.
That’s not important, what’s important is the looting (sarcasm). The still have yet and they are not releasing the cops name who shot Mike Brown. So now you are in a situation where those who are supposed to protect are the oppressors all due to inaction and protecting their own. On top of that news agencies are getting threatened for reporting the facts on the ground. As I keep saying the government could be fixing this problem and because of their inaction you get what is happening now.
And forgot to mention cnn caught the cops calling the protesters “fucking animals”
Anonymous released a statement, if the police fuck up again or fail to put in measure to protect civilians they will release all the personnel data on each officer online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSRQ-c1XW0
Point blank period LAPD were so notoriously corrupt in the 90s and the LA riots made them less corrupt, im not saying there is no corruption today but rioting has been proven to work.
Like the media hypes up rioting in Egypt, eastern Europe in the 90/2000s ect against corruption then when it happends in US people are savages lmao. Rioting is stupid but sometimes you have to speak a language the people you asre talking too can understand.
Protestors or looters? If it’s the latter, they are on the money. Motherfuckers going out there destroying stores IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY as if that’s supposed to have a positive impact. And just like rabid dogs, they should be put down.
What we’ve been told so far is that there was a struggle in the police car, and the kid was running away with his hands up when the cop shot him. The riot crowd only acknowledges the latter part, and seems to completely write off any possibility that there was an attempted gun grab. Fighting a cop and grabbing for his gun is pretty much a death wish, whether the cop’s actions leading to that point are right or wrong. Your statements that “the officer set things off” and “they started the destruction” also make it clear that you’ve already reached the conclusion you want (that Mr. Brown was innocent and gunned down for no reason).
At this point, we do not even know what the officer’s stated reason for attempting to apprehend Brown, but the facts don’t matter much to a crowd that loves to scream “racism” without much desire to know the details of an incident. At no point am I saying “turn the other cheek” if there was a legitimate injustice done- what I am saying is a) don’t jump to conclusions prematurely, and b)rioting, destroying, and stealing unrelated people’s property is counterproductive, and in the latter two cases, also extremely evil themselves. If the facts show that the cop was in the wrong, focus that energy on the police themselves, and while you’re at it, how about doing something to curb the rampant crime in such communities other than blaming police? Why do you think high crime areas get so much police attention? Is it because they’re often black, or because there’s lots of crime in them? All this talk about the black community rising up over perceived injustices at the hands of law enforcement, yet we’re supposed to believe that this community is incapable of changing a culture that seems to accept (or at least be indifferent towards) criminal behavior as the norm?
On a strong economy, the first prerequisite is that property rights are protected, i.e. you can own and save things without them being stolen or destroyed. Would you put every dime of your life savings into a business where you could rationally expect everything in it to be stolen or destroyed? Even if you would, how many other entrepreneurs would be willing to take that risk when there are greener pastures available? Every business in my neighborhood has been robbed (often at gunpoint) and vandalized, is this because the thieves and vandals are afraid of “issues from the people are supposed to be protecting them”, or is it because they’re thieves and vandals living in a culture that is indifferent to (and at worst, one that romanticizes) their behavior? Do the crackheads and pill fiends (not all of whom are black) who ensure that no lawnmower on my block is safe suffer from a crippling lust for small combustion engines due to police discrimination? Who devalues the YBM life more: the police, or the urban YBM’s who murder each other in the streets at an alarming rate?
Few of the cultural problems we associate with urban black neighborhoods are unique to them, and interestingly enough, UBN’s weren’t in the shape they are today back when open discrimination and segregation was the norm, which sort of impales the notion that discrimination is responsible for their current states. Read this for some interesting insight from a British doctor working in a poor area of England: http://www.amazon.com/Life-Bottom-Worldview-Makes-Underclass/dp/1566635055
I should add that I fully endorse the notion that police be recorded at all times, both to expose bad cops and to shut down the cries of demagogues who scream endlessly when a police action was truly justified.
Also (more directed to the media stories in general than anyone here), can we please stop taking parental statements like “he was such a good boy” as reputable legal testimony? Every time I read that sort of shit, I want to puke.
TYT shed more light on the situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojq-Fn1lyYc
The boys club trying to cover it up.