Michael Brown autopsy - shot at least six times - twice in the head: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?referrer=&_r=1
One of the bullets went through the top of Brown’s skull execution style.
CNN is saying all 6 shots entered from the front
They’re going to need an entirely new police force for Ferguson
Quite frankly sometimes the victim IS to blame. The victim isn’t always innocent. In this case however how the conflict initiated or even escalated is of little concern to me. All of the witness testimony leads me to believe that there were two separate conflicts. One in the car, and one outside of the car. Mike Brown could have initiated a physical altercation, reached for the gun and assaulted the officer, but if at any point he put his hands up to surrender and got shot after that, then that’s murder.
Slow your roll there, tiger. Everyone is emotionally charged by what has happened and what is happening, and if you’re going to be posting links like this (same link I was going to post), you should keep your bias out of the post or clearly explain that what you are saying is what you are speculating. There is no mention in the article that Brown was definitively shot in the head execution style. It is also mentioned in the article that no gunpowder residue was found on his body, although the article also mentions that forensics on Brown’s clothing have not been completed or released yet.
At the very least, the preliminary autopsy results have shown that Brown was only shot from the front, which rules out that he was shot in the back according to some witnesses. Keep in mind that this doesn’t mean he didn’t run from the officer and wasn’t shot at in the process. Witnesses may have thought he was actually hit while running, but he definitely was not shot in the back.
some guy on a unicycle in the middle of the street egging on the police
Hold on there, tiger. Stop calling me biased. None of us are trained experts in this whole thing. Maybe I shouldn’t have typed out “execution style” to get that kind of response from you.
What I do know is that LEOs are trained to shoot at the body (there are a few LEOs that are also part of my local FGC and they said that themselves). Not the limbs or head of a person. We’re not sure what else happened that made the officer to discharge his weapon multiple times to an already injured Michael Brown. Nor do we know how far Brown was when he got hit. Could Michael Brown have been charging at the officer head first? Who knows? This information is off the independent autopsy. Several investigations are under way. We’ll have to wait for more information to be released to the public.
“Execution style” is a pretty powerful phrase to be throwing around when tension is high and many people are just trying to get information. Let the article speak for itself. If you didn’t want to sound biased, that’s on YOU, not me.
But I felt that you came in a way of attacking me with that kind of response. I know tension is high and you felt that you had to respond to me that way.
I apologize for saying those two words that resulted in that kind of reaction from you (and maybe others) and will no longer comment in this thread until all emotion and tension is settled from everyone. I’ve contributed enough to this thread and if expressing an opinion/emotion is frowned upon, then good bye.
So many of you are too charged to voice an opinion on this. So many are ignoring facts. Well, here’s a factual report. A private preliminary autopsy.
I really can’t trust Brown’s friend. He said he was shot in the back but the autopsy shows no wounds to support that. There’s that and the fact that he kept their strong-arm robbing someone from the press. Shot six times? Totally insane. But was Brown innocent? So far there’s nothing that says he was.
And I’m tired of people, both here and in real life, saying the officer grabbed Brown off the street. There is NO PROOF that this happened. Seriously, none. All we have is Brown’s friend’s word and he has already shown to be a terrible witness.
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Unrelated, but happened in the same city… HAMMER TIME!
http://www.kmov.com/news/mobile/Police-Suspects-hit-hot-dog-vendor-with-hammer-at-local-Home-Depot-220688811.html
There was no reason for him to mention the robbery. The police officer didn’t mention it, so why should he?
The police officer never spoke. His identity was kept hidden and then he split town before they released it.
And Johnson says they were doing “nothing wrong” when it happened. That is factually wrong and is pretty significant in what Brown’s state of mind would have been during the moment. If he lied by omission, what else could he be lying about? He should have been honest about it so his credibility wouldn’t have been destroyed.
Oh, and I won’t even go into him saying that the officer shot Brown in the back. Something proven to be a complete lie.
Saying it’s execution style is irresponsible. It’s not like the cops were TRYING to kill him when they shot him six times.
They weren’t doing anything wrong when the cop stopped them other than being in the street.
Timeline of all the events this is insane when you compile it like this, like watching a domino effect:
Bored. I’ll tackle this page so far with ease. Read, pretty sound arguments this page. lol, dammit.
Well i do not know if it changed or not, but in the video i posted a bit back. He never said he shot his friend in the back. I just watched it again. He said his friend was running, the officer fired again, his friend felt that shot (but due to the autopsy it might have been that he felt the first shot finally sink in, and he thought it was the second shot that made his friend stop), his friend stopped, put his hands in the air and turned around, and he fired more shots into his friend.
Early reports were that he was killed execution style,and i think between emotions, and stories changing as witnesses started to come out, things got clouded, but yeah, the video i watched, he never said his friend was shot in the back, but i dont know if in other interviews, he said that his friend was shot in the back.
His credibility is still fucked up because of the robbery he was involved in, and didnt mention. He should have laid quiet more then talked, because if he flip flops, or has flip flopped, a lawyer will eat that shit up.
True, but that means he shouldnt have spoke, or admitted to being an accessory, apologized, and moved on to the possible injustice against his friend. I think at the time he wanted to tell his story, and he never got arrested for that situation, even after the fact, so he probably was like, i guess they dont know about it.
Like denzel said, its not about what you know, its what you can prove, and if this goes to trial, his word as someone there with brown the whole time for the most part, any errors in his story can be a big problem in getting a conviction if wilson is guilty of murder.
I thought the first statement from the department on behalf of the officer, was his story of stopping some guys for walking in the street, getting assaulted, pursuing one, and then the incident happened. I mean, that info had to come from somewhere, and if it was more detailed then that, they did wilson an injustice in not releasing that info. We were talking about that pages ago when there was little to no info, and that info was a part of that discussion.
Well technically brown and johnson were not doing anything other then walking in the street, which is not that big of a deal in a residential neighborhood like that. The officer was not aware they were suspects to my knowledge. The officer honking and moving on would have been more then enough to get them out of the street, but instead he stopped for some reason we do not know. The robbery by brown is definitely a blow, because like you said, that puts his state of mind somewhere angry, violent, and not giving a fuck about breaking the law.
When you do what brown did, it makes proving wrong doing even harder because now they see not too long before that you were on some g shit. That doesnt mean brown was immediately ready to fight an officer and try to steal his gun, but unfortunately it also doesnt mean he was some innocent young man minding his business, but was someone who just robbed a store, and is now having a cop run up on him and talk to him. The latter being a situation that can take all logic and rational out of the equation.
Browns behavior is interesting, because to rob a store and walk off is some boss shit, and then when the cop came up on them, they didnt just take off running like most of us would have, he was in a state of mind to play it cool until something happened between the officer and him, and shit then got real. Ive done a lot of shit in my day, not too wild, but some of the wild basics, and if i did some shit like brown, then saw a cop behind us slowing up to talk to us, id just take off running, not g it up like that. I’m not saying brown is guilty of assaulting the officer and trying to take his gun, and maybe he got it like that, that he kept his composure until some shit went down, but keeping your composure alone at his age, right after what he did, is quite the emotional and mental feat.
If you are pointing a loaded gun barrel at someone, you have made that decision already.
This is NOT up for debate.
Yeah, its called Astroturfing, and corporations and governments have been doing it forever. It goes on at pretty much every major rally, and usually the people insighting the most notable behavior are the paid protestors. There is tons of evidence throughout the internet of this being done.
Its never talked about in mainstream media due to so much speculation, and very few people coming forward about it who dont care to be anonymous. The evidence is there to start a story with it, but i dont think anyone wants to step onto that territory for many obvious reasons, but the idea of it is common sense. If i was the government or a huge company, why wouldnt i get people to sign a contract, and pay them to go out there and fake protest, but can never say shit about it unless they wanna get sued to death. Its not illegal to do it, but it definitely is shady as fuck.
Every event always has to be weary of these people.
All anyone needs to look at is COINTELPRO to get an idea of government infiltration. All you basically had to be was black back then, and the fbi was watching you. They had informants everywhere in black communities and college campuses. http://cironline.org/reports/man-who-armed-black-panthers-was-fbi-informant-records-show-3753
All that time and effort put into depowering the black man in this country, even when you know he is upset because of how his own country has treated him, and still currently treats him. Black people werent getting radical and forming groups because they wanted to be crazy, but because the country sent a clear message to them, and they had to figure something out, or get fucked for decades more.
Turns out, most, if not all the domestic terrorist that have done big damage here, or were planning on it are white. All the mass shooters are white. Most of the serial killers are white, most of the rapist are white, and most of the criminals in this country are WHITE. Nothing against white people at all, people will be who they be, but all that effort by insecure white men in our government and our major corporations to weaken the black man, only to have the largest news events in this country usually be crimes committed by white men, is crazy. At least the crimes that dont just affect people in the local neighborhood, but anyone. With the DC sniper being one of the few exceptions, and even then, a lot of that whole situation is hella questionable.
The FBI shows us the black man isnt inherently criminalistic (thats a stupid idea anyways), as most of the criminals in this country are white. Not because they are the majority, but because they are committing the crimes, point blank period. Yet we still get painted in a bad light any chance the media can get. The black man in this country is like a demi god (not tooting a horn, but they treat us as that high of a threat, and have for centuries now) they are constantly working to oppress and not allow to be but so empowered, and for what. Most of us just wanna live and enjoy the good shit with everyone else, like the middle class majority. No one wants to struggle, and have to be violent and angry. Those are adaptations to their environments as a part of their survival, and in some cases simple greed and other sins.
**The current two most recent generations, and lately even our parents generations are so over the race shit. People just wanna exist, and succeed without all this bullshit. Jokes on most of us anyways, since we’re all still getting fed the same shitty food, education is not great in general (we are still a pretty stupid nation in comparison to others), our health as a whole is atrocious, our governments squander away our tax dollars whether you be black, white, asian, whatever. “Race wars” are a distraction for those self fullfilling their own dumb ass prophecies. Meanwhile everyones suffering from the classism war of millionaire and billionaire sociopaths. Offtopic, but as we deal with our current racial issues in this country, which we should, lets not lose sight of the bigger problems that effect us all regardless of race. **
Speaking of, the faster people force that concept to die, the better.
Revelant: http://www.science20.com/gerhard_adam/why_race_pseudoscience-92948