I don’t really care either way if they get banned or not! 100% neutral, but I do personally think they r pretty stupid and a pain in the ass to deal with! I play Zero/V-joe, so they aren’t a problem, but I still don’t like fighting them!
Can we ban Tager while are at it.
Let’s ban V-13 because she changes the game completely durp.
Lets Ban Blazblue player cause I’m made at them at the moment.
V-13 is not in bb cs. Lambda-11 is but she is balanced and not broken.
isnt blaz blue really poorly balanced? ive never really played it much so i only know what i hear.
Blaze Blue Continuum Shift is balanced compared to the last game Calamity Trigger.
games like that make our balance arguments seem so insignificant.
Wow this thread is so full of fail. There is already consensus among the best players that giants DO NOT break the game.
Yes, let’s decide a ban based on subjective and arbitrary personal opinion that holds absolutely no value in a rational debate!
“Giants change the game! It’s not ‘REAL’ TvC if you choose giant! Giant users don’t care about ‘REAL’ TvC!”
OMG I have to fight differently against a different character! BAN! BAN MIDGETS TOO PL0X my combos don’t work NOT REAL TvC!!!1
Let’s show the world that we’re all about making hasty and irrational decisions based on faulty logic! No thank you.
People who want to ban characters that don’t break the game have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
I don’t use giants, and I think it’s stupid to talk about banning them, either hardban or softban. They aren’t broken or anything. And you know? Fighting Sagat in CvS2 was boring as fuck too, but I don’t recall anyone wanting a softban on him.
If you’re doing it to build interest, all you’re doing is building up a scene that will get reamed by anyone decent playing PTX who rolls into town.
way to hop on the train way late. if you’re so keen on joining in now and quoting me at least read everything i’ve said.
I totally agree with giants being boring as hell to watch and even worst to play against, but I disagree with any form of banning a character that doesn’t have any evidence of said character being excessively overpowered to the point where they can lock you in a corner or have some sort of 1 shot kill tactic.
Yes, they remove pretty much every combo a non-giant can do but if you think about it, that was kind of the point of them being giants. To me, they actually feel like how they’re interpreted in their origin. Sentinals from x-men are usually 40 feet tall but somehow they shrunk to 8 feet and they don’t have any special characteristics about them except for the 1-2 shot no recoil damage.
If you’re a good enough player, you’ll figure out a way to get around scrubby giant players.
In a brief statement, I hate giants but I don’t think they should be banned in any form unless decisive evidence is brought to prove how unfair the margin of fair play is.
I only pray that there aren’t any giants in MVC3
Unless there’s something I’m missing, Polimar seems to be the only character at a disadvantage against giants (In my experience).
Half the cast can juggle them
The rest can command grab them
Anyone else can zone them or have supers that immobilizes them.
I’ve played some really good PTX players and I’ve seen really good lightans, the matches are exciting, but usually whenever I see a giant match on a widely publicized stream, it’s usually Marn vs. A giant which is 99 seconds of Jump Charge buster.
I’m not knocking Marn, it’s a legit strategy and as someone who plays the game, I thought it was interesting to see how the giant players dealt with it, but others I watched the stream with were very vocal about how boring it was.
All that aside, I’m against the soft ban. Giants can be (and are) entertaining, however I think the truth is people who haven’t played the game don’t really see all the technical things happening to both players (Normal vs. Giant) and how difficult it is for both sides to really pull out a win.
and that’s my 2 cents
EDIT: Did a quick review to how I handled polimar, I’m willing to retract my first statement
My apologies for ‘hopping on the train late’, but the fact is I have read everything you said and most of it is nothing more than opinionated rubbish. You say watching or playing against giants isn’t fun. I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe you should actually fight GCYoshi. You never know, you might be somewhat entertained! Of course you may not have fun if he totally owns you, which is the most likely scenario.
If I got totally owned by a giant, I would counter pick and attempt a win with a strong anti-giant team. If I still lose, then I know that this giant player knows what he’s doing! I would be ELATED that I came across a skilled giant player, and I would be greatly entertained by trying to figure out his openings to EARN my victory.
You can go right ahead and keep whining, as long as that makes you happy.
No one like a smart ass(joking) They are the same person.
did you catch the part about my saying i’ve learned to deal with it, by chance? how is that whining? i’m entitled to an opinion without being crucified for it. so many babies on this site. its pretty bad when the gamefaqs crowd seems more mature and less hostile.i seriously don’t know why so many people keep ripping on me for disliking certain characters. im a good player. i know how to deal with them. i can beat a giant. im not complaining because im a noob. i’ve been playing this game since the first week it came out in japan. my opinion is justified. i understand it wont always be shared. im not shoving it down anyone’s throat. please provide me the same courtesy.
i miss the glory days when the giants sucked so bad these conversations didnt happen.
Yes indeed, I did read the part where you said you ‘learned to deal with it’ yet you still were in favor of a ban. I find that to be very hypocritical. It is very similar to a racist who has ‘learned to deal’ with minorities, yet still pushes for ‘seperate but equal’ facilities lol.
You say you don’t want to shove your opinion down anyone’s throat, but it just so happens that an official ban affects EVERYONE who plays the game. It doesn’t matter if it is hard ban or soft ban. Again, I find it hypocritical that you have no qualms imposing an irrational rule, which was derived solely from personal opinion or preference, over this game’s entire community, yet when people explain to you why that rule is irrational, you interpret that as them pushing their opinions on to you.
If you still interpret this post as me trying to push my opinion on you, I assure you that that is not my intent. If you sense any hostility from me I assure you it is not aimed at you, but at your rationale. I simply enjoy picking apart arguments that are backed by trite opinion and logical fallacies.
Softban ‘throws’
Throws should be ‘softbanned’. I’m a complete newb, and don’t know how to counter throws, so I don’t like them… and everyone else shouldn’t like them either.
Here’s what I think is really dumb or “unfair” if you will about giants! If they do pressure you or fuck something up just once, you have the chance of loosing most of, if not all of your health and bursting doesn’t affect them so you can’t stop it! Then your next character that comes in has the awesome privilege of eating an unblockable into level 3! That’s pretty gay if u ask me! Again, I don’t care if they get banned or not cause I play a CP team by default, but it’s things like that that urk the side of me that doesn’t like the giants!
Giants are just lame characters but they are beatable. Everyone needs to learn how to deal with them and hard counter them with a team. They can be annoying but you just have to play certain strategies against giants to live and beat them. No soft ban on giants!