Power of Who? - The new Nova Team Building Thread

A month or two ago, I played against some guy named Zansam in a tourney at Game Pazzo outside of Chicago with my Wolverine/Firebrand/Akuma team in a match to get into top 8 and got wrecked so badly that it made me decide as a sort of Marvel New Year’s Resolution to pick up Nova/Frank. Lo and behold, I find him here. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

However, I don’t think I want to put Rocket Raccoon on anchor. I was hoping to find some other ideas in this thread for a good final character to add to my shell. Sentinel comes to mind, but I don’t know what he does for Frank. Another I was thinking of is Wesker.

What do you guys think?

Wesker would be about the worst possible choice for that team. Check out the Nova/Frank shell section of the first post, that’s what it’s there for :slight_smile:

From there: "Potential third characters for this shell are: Anyone who creates a backup plan for Frank whilst also offering some utility to Nova, these include Amaterasu, Rocket Racoon, Dr Doom, Dante and Vergil amongst others."

Scottle did a rock solid job of giving a condensed (but effective) analysis of the third in conjunction with the recommendations for who to fit the role. Here’s an expanded version:

Nova/Frank is an excellent shell, and they do a nice job of giving part of what the other needs (Frank gives Nova lockdown and a midscreen coverage, whereas Nova helps him extend and has a 200k damage DHC). However, there’s a lot of things that they both want to round out the third spot, so finding an an anchor is difficult. Here’s some of those wanted qualities.

Frank wants:

1 a backup plan to level in case nova doesn’t get the job done (either multiple ones or one-two very good ones. Either way, you want it so that if you land a hit, you’re getting chainsaws).

2 a neutral assist to help him get hits if on point, and to strengthen his offense when he has chainsaws (he’s good, but good assists make him godlike)

3 a character who can use shopping cart in case you decide to change the order.

Nova wants:

1 a coverage assist from full screen help his approach and compliment shopping cart

2 an assist with durability

Both want:

1 a good DHC/THC

2 An anchor that can comeback

3 Overall compatible synergy.

This is a tall order, and there’s honestly no character who fits the bill entirely. Your best bet in a character for the anchor spot is to find a combination of one who fits the most criterion in conjunction with ones you place value on. Wesker doesn’t really fit the bill; he pretty much is a comeback mechanic, a bit of an extender (though neither Nova or Frank need OTGs), and is pretty much like putting a big “If Nova doesn’t level Frank Dark Wesker is my only shot” sticker on your back.

Dante, Ammy, Vergil, Arthur, and Raccoon fit the bill the best in my opinion, all with various strengths and weaknesses. I use Raccoon because I emphasize neutral game, and if Nova/Frank do their job properly, Raccoon’s big weakness (comeback potential) never comes into play.

Characters like Chris and Taskmaster fit the bill quite well, their comeback potential is just kinda eeeeh. But I could definitely see stuff like Nova/Frank/Chris or Nova/Frank/Tasky work out.

For Nova/Frank, my favorites would be Vergil or Dante as anchor or second.

What you need is another character that can level up Frank should Nova die and can take advantage of Shopping Cart.

Just throwing it out there that Ammy has great leveling up synergy with Frank. If you have good reactions, you can just THC punish a random whiff against most characters and have 4 levels. Okami Shuffle -> whiffed Survival Techniques works too, as does Survival Techniques -> Veil of Mist, hard tag to Frank. Shopping Cart is also good for Ammy, for what it’s worth. Consider that Cold Star is an awesome assist for Nova as long as he has a nice horizontal neutral assist, and I think you’ve got a nice team. Dante with Jam Session in the back is probably better, but this is 2nd best imo.

Unfortunately, midscreen THC snipes are very iffy with Frank/Amaterasu. The opponent will randomly drop out between Ice and Thunder because the Cart pushed them too far away :confused:

For those who want to run Nova on the second position? Who is the optimal 3rd character? 3rd character needs to provide a good assist for the 1st and 2nd characters and also give Nova ToD combos.

I can’t think of anyone else that fits this profile other than Taskmaster.

Sentinel and Doom probably work if you go for TAC combos.

Vergil works but than the you have to run rapid slash as your only neutral assist.

Frank West works but you give up ToD combos for level 4 Frank.

Hawkeye and Strider have great assists but Nova will have to go for resets to kill characters.

I think this is the biggest problem for those who want to run Nova on the second position. The other big problem being that Nova’s assists are only mediocre.

Well… it all depends on who the first character is… lol
Nova’s not the kind of character that’s part of a definitive shell because he’s mostly considered a point character. His assists aren’t universally useful to everyone.
The best team that doesn’t have Nova on point is probably Taekua’s, Vergil/Task/Nova since Vergil can take advantage of Nova’s assist well for unblockables and combos, while still getting the benefit of Task’s neutral assist.

I use to play a variation of Taekua’s team a while back ago (Nova, Task, Vergil) and its funny how the order of that team changes the way it plays. Starting Vergil makes it a mixup team. Starting Nova makes it a more rush down style. I just don’t like Nova anchor UNLESS you are a UOP lol

That’s what makes it good. If Vergil is snapped in and survives the mix-up, there’s no need to DHC/tag him out immediately.

TBH, that team should be ran as Vergil Nova Task. Vergil dies, u got the Nova Task shell and Nova’s DHC damage is better anyway. Plus Vergil does this with Nova Task
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Honestly it just seems like a really fucking flexible team lol

yeah I was running Nova Task Vergil and I REALLY wasn’t feeling rapid slash as an assist…I didn’t really use it outside of combo extension or pushing people back when I was javelin-ing.

I just can’t run Vergil on point yet, my shit is too fraudulent haha.

That being said, one of my favorite shells in the game is probably Nova/Task, and I’m just wondering what could I throw on the back (or even put in the front) to complete the team? I’ve experimented with Sentinel, Spencer, and, of course, Vergil…and I know about Ammy via Moons, but that’s really about it.

That’s why its so good. That team can be played so many different ways and still be viable just all depends if you are a mixup or rush down player. Hell, you could even run Task, Nova, Vergil and make it a keep away team, though you would probably have to use Nova’s Pulse assist which isn’t used much. The ONLY reason I don’t use that team too much anymore is it’s so versatile it gets cheap, so I switched out Vergil for Trish to make it more interesting. But trust, that team is definitely a tournament caliber team

All good choices. Sentinel and Ammy are both really good for Task and Nova, and Spencer goes without saying. Doom missiles would also make for a really versatile team that can rush down or keep away really effectively.

So I been hitting the training mode like crazy trying to learn new teams since I always only use my main team lol but I’m really liking Nova/Trish/Hawkeye!!! Some real good synergy and mix-ups (helps that I can do Trish Infinite now and know some good THCs with Nova). I’m still learning seeing as I’ve never given actual time into practicing with these characters, one thing I like to do is after completing full BnB with nova I like to go into L centurion rush->Super Nova DHC into Round Harvest tag in Nova and throw javelin into M centurion rush and either waste another bar for super or I can lead into a reset. But any and all advice I can get is very much appreciated :slight_smile:

What assists are you using?

Nova:B, Trish:B, Hawkeye:A

Interesting. I never really thought about putting Nova and Trish together I guess. How do you use Peekaboo with Nova?