I wouldn’t say 1 frame but that’s pretty scary
my nova team is at the top of the list damage wise! probably bottom tier everywhere else but that grown ass man damage meme aint no joke here!!!
Considering making the old team Moons another of my B team. Nova Task Ammy. At the moment I’m trying to learn Doom on Spencer Task Doom. If I pick up Amy, I’ll be looking at the possibility of playing Nova Doom Amy and Nova Spencer Doom too. Probably going to transition from pad to stick as well. I feel like at this point in time in my growth as a player, I’m losing more so from being held back by pad problems and the fact that I don’t have that really solid assist to help my mixups.
I’ve actually been working on Nova/Dorm/Strange secretly. The combos and tech I got for it is insane!
Friend of mine on XBL plays Nova Dorm Strange. It’s ridiculous. I have A LITTLE tech for Nova Dorm. Nothing we haven’t already seen though. It’s a solid shell.
we have Nova/dorm/strange in Australia
his name escapes me however
Was playing it badly in casuals down in fl last week. My Nova’s terrible (I barely used him until recently), but he’s really good for Dorm/Strange.
My contribution to this thread for now: If people don’t know it already, Nova air throw in the corner, dashdown whiffed normal, tag dorm, call bolts and flame carpet, bolt 1 hits, st.H into flight, bolt two hits while you inch forward a bit, j.MHS j.MHS st.MS MMHS, Nova assist and flame carpet, fH fH Dark Hole Chaotic Flame, it does 747k and builds half a meter before DHC/st.L-Snap
Doesn’t work on rocket, but the spacing dorm comes in gives him a solo pickup off of carpet, so there’s definitely something there, but I haven’t messed with it yet.
Um, on RR, Nova corner air throw combo: Nova throw, whiff normal, tag, flame carpet, inch forward, st.S, MHS (can do 2 M’s but this is easier), call Strange and flame carpet, charge red twice, st.S, sj.HS, flame carpet, charge once, st.S jumpcancelled into Liberation, fH, fH + Nova assist into st.S cancelled into flight, j.S, flame carpet, fH Dark Hole Chaotic Flame. Does 800k, builds about 80% of a meter after the Chaotic Flame.
You can actually do 3 chaotic flames if you space the assists differently, but why the hell would you?
Wow. I gotta record this.
Nice tech my friend.
Thanks. Hopefully you make better use of it than I do now, my Nova is still pretty terrible at any confirms beyond boxdash H+bolts.
Also, got any midscreen Nova/Dorm/Strange airthrow tags? I’ve been trying, but I can’t pickup without using some meter to do so.
Nope. I wasn’t even aware you can do it in the corner with Bolts assist. I’ll see if I can figure something out.
Guys, whats a better option, Nova/Trish/Doom or Nova/Trish/Strange? Im pretty set on Nova/Trish but alternatively I was wondering if anyone had tried Nova/Dante/Strange? At this point Im going to stay with Nova/Trish for good, but I am curious about what synergy that team has.
Well it goes back to a conversation we had a few days ago where I was making the argument that Doom is better than Strange but some people made valid points for Strange’s viability. I do however believe with Nova Trish, you should go with Doom. I feel like Doom might offer a lot more to BOTH Trish and Nova. I’m not sure whether or not missiles or beam will be better for Trish though. Overall, if you’re really looking to play Nova Trish, you might have to adapt more of a Moons kind of style (like kind of trying to play a clean neutral and slightly passive neutral).
Doom is easier to play and allows raw tags from airthrows. However, with a Nova/Trish shell it might not be necessary because of Round Harvest unblockables. Plasma Beam is also very good for Nova, however it doesn’t allow a large amount of lockdown though it’s not necessarily needed.
Strange might also let you setup Palmfinite loops from the round harvest. I’m not exactly sure how, but you might be able to. Also, Bolts are absolutely ridiculous for Nova. It lets him stay in forever and control the neutral much easier. Nova’s a different character with Bolts. Bad side on this is that Strange is MUCH more difficult to play than Doom and is completely free to Dark Vergil.
Oh yeah, I actually read the earlier posts, though it was more centered on who was better for the Nova/Spencer shell from what I could see.
Missiles is definitely better than beam for Trish, but as we all know beam is better for Nova, so thats why I was thinking of going with Strange as sort of a compromise, also tried Sentinel and Im for a bit, but yeah, Tony, and I just dont like sentinel, so its between Strange and Doom for me,
Right now I am way more familiar with using Doom than I am with Strange, so its hard for me to really gauge which one works bestr as most of my issues come down to bad execution and inexperience with Strange.
As far as ip loops way Ive been trying to get into them off a raw rag is from a Nova combo dhc’d into rh raw tag strange, teleport h, ip loops. Havent been able to get them yet, but again might just be inexperience with Strange bad execution on my part I think it should be doable though. Its not as clean or cheap as slant shot into crumple, but its an extra option to have, plus I like Trish better and I feel peekaboo is better than slant for the neutral game. And Trish provides unblockables and tac infinites.
Overall I like Doom better, but Im not really put off by Strange being more difficult to play, I kind of feel like bolts is just better for this team too, however results havent shown that yet, and being free to Dark Vergil is something to consider. Also I dont really mind a more passive neutral style, in fact I think it suits me better than crazy rushdown.
Another reason Im considering strange is from watching genesis who so far has been the only one Ive see who uses Nova/Trish, so while Im not at all inclined to use ammy a good lockdown assist seems to be really useful for this team, more so than beam, strange kind of provides both though, but Im mostly just theory fighting so far.
I’m thinking that you can probably do something like, Nova Force DHC into Round Harvest, raw tag to Nova, Energy Javelin, raw tag Strange, IP S to palm loop. This is just theory atm, but I do believe its possible. You need to do a combo with Nova that saves your ground bounce however.
Funny cuz Nova Trish is one of the teams I was messing with while recording footage for my next video. The hard tag to Strange is very viable. Based off of what I have seen with Strange combos, the teleport that puts you above them or w/e, H impact palm, teleport back down to the ground should help with the pick up. I feel like I have seen people to an air impact palm and teleport to the floor before.
This has a few setups with Round Harvest, Mazio’s the authority on a lot of Flameloop setups, I’ve never tried it, and this is not exactly the same team composition, but it seems like it’d work with that team composition. I would try to lab a version of that from a Nova confirm, but I don’t have access to the lab at the moment.
Also, thinking about Nova/Strange without a third character, maybe Nova could airthrow midscreen, rawtag in Strange, THC with Strange/Nova, teleport into loops, but I am pretty terrible at midscreen confirms/setups, so someone else would have to find out if that works.
Hmm. From the looks of that, you probably don’t even need to Raw Tag Nova for the energy Javelin. I’ll just raw Tag Strange and do that right after the DHC. If this is possible this means that you get TOD from all of Nova’s combos as long as you build enough meter for a DHC to Trish. Not to mention you can also do unblockable setups with the Round Harvest by raw tagging Strange and calling Nova assist. Meaning you can do Palm Loops from a clean unblockable. Might be experimenting with this team as well. Very nice technology.
Yeah, thats the one Ive been trying to do, although my nova bnb uses up the groundbounce so I try to teleport into the air rather than catch them when they are falling, which gets a bit tricky sometimes, but generally the same idea. I could skip the grounbounce during the nova part of the combo but then I dont build enough meter for the round harvest. 
You know I hadnt thought of the second teleport to get back down, I am definitely going to try that, if it works that would help immensely for the confirm post rh.
And damn, that video was awesome, I hadnt realized they had that much synergy together, I think I might have finally found the final member to complete my team. If not at least that should be mad fun to get down, thanks for the video man.
Not sure the assist will be available for thc after the raw tag with that combo though.