I dont care too much for the charge, aslong they buff his supers and normals- us bison players dont even use ultras to win most are games anyway.
So since the killed cammy; what did they do to rufus?
I’m loving the changes.
All I need now is nerfed damage on him, and I’ll be a happier Dictator.
The only people I’ve seen whining about changes until now have been scrubalicious players.
If a well known top player comes along and says: “hey, this change is just fucking retarded”, I’ll suck a dick. I swear.
Top players-> Alex Valle, a few japanese players, and basically most of the top8 from evo (random list is random).
I’ll also take Marn’s opinions. He’s top in my opinion.
The motion change is dumb if it stays true, but I don’t really depend on ultra to win with Bison so it’s not a huge game changer for me.
Has anyone confirmed any other changes to Bison at all? I know that Japan is like the Mario World -1, and news travels slow, but surely to goodness something new has got to have been discovered by now.
Also, someone else mentioned it earlier, how do we know it is Balrog (Japan’s Bison) and not the Dictator himself?
If there has been a change to his Ultra, something else has got to have been changed, the odds are that the nerfed U2 has got to lead to some other change.
charge U2 is a fucking joke that needs to go away
the whole point is to be able to move forward, approaching the enemy, and still have them fear an ultra.
Let’s see if I can get this right…
**Capcom changes Honda’s U2 motion to something easier —> Big commotion from naabs claiming it’ll be too easy to do, and that noobs are at fault here for not being able to do 720.
Capcom changes Bison’s U2 motion to something harder —> Big commotion from naabs claiming it’ll be too hard to do, and that noobs whined about the ultra being too easy.**
I’m not surprised they added recovery to U2. Charge motion, though … LOL. Glad I stopped playing this game.
Also, this.
Dude, seriously take your trolling somewhere else.
It’s a very big deal that this happened because it effectively cuts off a very nice portion of Bison’s pressure game. With little to no ways to combo into either Ultra, it’s important that it serves a purpose beyond that, and gives us a tool to put down pressure and punish. U1 couldn’t do that because they can see you charging it and react. The whole point of U2 was to punish players who think it’s funny to do stupid shit all the time they think is safe. They can’t see this ultra coming though, since it doesn’t require charge.
So now the opponent might get nervous about throwing out that random Hadoken or other punishable special they though it was so easy to spam. Now they have the fear of God (or Psycho Punisher) in them, they play a little more reserved, and you have a terrifying upper hand, whether you elect to use the ultra or not. It’s just “there”, making them afraid.
Making it a charge motion defeats the purpose of it at all, and ruins that added effect of pressure. Against certain characters, they now have next to nothing to fear from Bison. Without an overhead, a reliable anti air (in the sense it cleanly wins more over a trade or flat loss), or certain specials being fixed, Bison has to rely on a tick throw game more than ever against people who play Downback Fighter 4 all day long.
I’ve been playing Bison since vanilla launched. This makes me mad as hell.
Well this suck but at least us bison players didn’t get a damage nerf like most of the cast. Most of the cast got screwed over much much worse than him. I really doubt that there gonna stick with this change though it’s just well stupid. Also I hope st Hk is still the same though.
I garantee that you must be fucking horrible with bison for the dum shit you say
Listen to West Daniel because he knows what he is talking about. Now we going to look like balrog crouching throughing random japs out waiting for a fire ball. Who on gods green earth cant fucking predick the your waiting to do your ultra. Good Shit Capcom. Good Shit
>Who on gods green earth cant fucking predick the your waiting to do your ultra.
well I bet some people don’t even care after they change it, since start frame is so slow they can block by reaction now.
If they make bison teleport into ultra that might work as akuma U2 which is great, and we can rethink about not using teleport that much now, can even make it a bait and punish any whiff sht after it.
I got an Idea, if they can combo it I take it, like light scissor into FADC into ultra! (yeah I get it is hard for FADC in charge ultra, but even Guile in SSF4 can do dash ultra, if Guile can live with it, why not all mighty bipson :p)or scissor FADC into EX PC!
For all the hell they cause,why not just redesign the darn Bipson Ultra 2? I want FULL SCREEN SATELLITE BEAM SIZE PSYCHOOOO KRAAAASHAAA!
Yeah good changes, the bison threads have been to smiley and smug lately. We need that sf4 grunge
B, F, B, F + PPP motion for Psycho Punisher. I’ll take this over zig zagging.
Someone put this up on the SSF4 AE LocTest thread, and its got some new info about some characters including Bison. It’s translated from a Japanese page using Google Translator, so if you can make heads or tails of it, might have some useful info.
Keep in mind, that as it’s a Japanese page, Bison is Boxer and Vega is Dictator.
Vega should be dictator, Balrog is claw, Bison is boxer.
I ran through some of the other stuff on the first post.
Sorry about that, caught that little error right before you posted and edited it.
Plus, I’m with Kisaku, sorta. If we get a means to better connect this crap, then I’ll go along, maybe…
It’s a loctest.
Calm down.
Australian Ogre == Akuma
Yuan == Gen
Urukon == Ultra Combo
Supairaruaro == Spiral Arrow
LOL auto-translation comes through yet again
Oh noes! Did my credibility just go down the toilet!?
Nop.
I’m still right. You’re crying about something idiotic.
I’ll bold it so you morons understand:
How often does Boxer/Chun-li/Honda/Blanka(u2) hit an opponent throwing a fireball with their CHARGED ULTRAS?
The answer is IRRELEVANT [COLOR="#2e8b57"](although I’ll give you a tip: it’s very often. I can link you to about 50 videos of top players getting hit by charged ultras after throwing a fireball. Requires skill to hit with a charged ultra, and good reaction/prediction. Something you whining idiots seem to lack, hence all the bashing to whoever tries to point at you) They have CHARGED ULTRAS. Why should Dictator be any different, might I ask? And yes, Blanka’s U2 Ground has shit damage too, just like Dic’s PP. The other 3 have a larger ultra animation, easily punishable on whiff[/COLOR] (apart maybe from Boxer, who always seems to get too far away in some cases).
Please show me the light, oh wise online champions.
(And please, link more videos of me using Dictator. Oh wait, none to be found. I have to find that Forum Wars Archetype website. I believe you fit very well into of those douchebags who tries very hard to dig up dirt on someone instead of actually trying to discuss whatever’s being talked… There’s an expression for that sort of shit-> being a major pussy)
This is probably the first time I’m actually ANXIOUS to read the counter-argument to what I said regarding charged Ultras. I’m really anxious. I bet the answer is gonna be so awesome. Maybe it’ll be “Dictator is TOTALLY SHIT compared to those characters you mentioned! They have charged ultras to balance their AWESOMENESS! Dictator is CRAP without QCFx2 ultra! Fuck you Ribxus! You know shit about this game! You’re all frame data and theories! You’re an ass!”.