(I can’t even pretend to be surprised at the above story, unfortunately.)
Time to slightly derail the thread in an attempt to prevent it from going full-blown conspiracy theory, though I’m sure this will backfire.
Underling is my emphasis; figured I’d edit that in rather than making it bold without saying anything.
Uh…not really. Fear of war with the Soviet Union was as much of self-fulfilling prophecy as any of the bullshit you’re understandably railing against rather than any actual “fact” outside of that the fact that they were the only other “superpower” after WWII fucked over every other country. Unless, of course, you happen to think that the crock of horseshit that was the “Domino Theory” had any actual validity.
I get what you’re saying and while I agree to extent, I think at the very least your phrasing needs some work given you’re making it seem like all of this stuff magically came into play at the start of millennium after 2001. The only real changes are communism getting switched out for terrorism and the U.S. becoming more in debt to China.
I just seems like you’re acting like communism was some monolithic threat where none of these other things existed when it was really only at the forefront like how terrorism is nowadays. Shrug.
Either way, this seems more fitting for the “state of the world” thread than this one.
from the comments section
"Hi i am from Reddit and this video does not show the true story. where is the footage from before the shooting? Also this guy robbed a cigar from a store earlier on thug. And if you look closely you can see he was clearly going for the officers gun.
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I’m not asking about the difference between cops and hooligans
It’s obvious
What I’m saying is that you have violence occur within the community a lot more then it should from people that are not cops and there isn’t the same outcry or fervor for justice.
When I see that in east Cleveland a group including a teenager get gunned down and the story isn’t raising the same eyebrows (in the same week though) as this I question people’s awareness of their own community and evaluation to preserve that areas stability
The same with the ferguson case
St. Louis and those parts are dangerous.
You think any cops wake up and want to do this
It’s perpetuated by the fact that activity from within that community makes people including cops weary. Subconsciously
It should be a sweeping motion to stop violence period not just when cops do it
I was initially pissed at the beginning of the video on how ridiculous it was for the police officer to stop him just because he had his hands in his pocket.
At the end though I was proud they keep it civil & was level headed with each other.He couldn’t really get pissed at the cops because he was just doing his job (responding to a call).
Yeah why not pursue everything in a sweeping motion? Stop all diseases and not just cancer. Stop polluters everywhere and not just where you live. Stop rape everywhere and not just college campuses. Imagine what we’d get gone.
(So, CNN is finally talking about this to a more extended degree. Joy.)
Haha at the reporter acting like this shooting will change anything if even more egregious shootings haven’t. Oh, you guys.
You realize how counter to human nature that is though, even before the rise of all this self-important “social” technology, right? I mean, even ignoring that all of these things are probably flat out impossible to entirely stop, even when they’re not using violence on each other or otherwise fucking each other over intentionally, people just tend to have different interests and focuses in general. Not to mention it’s unfortunately part of human nature to generally be interested in fixing something detrimental only if (you realize) it actually affects you or someone you care about (or someone you’re told to care about by society).
Unless, of course, you’re being sarcastic, in which case this post makes more sense.
I’ll admit that it’s an interesting thing to imagine, but all it does is make you more bitter about humanity when you realize that’s never going to be the case with any of the world’s many problems (caused by humanity).
its really easy to just strawman an entire movement to make them look foolish. shooting deaths from other civilians and shooting deaths from law enforcement are totally separate issues and trying to equivocate them is just a way to distract from one or the other. and one might reason that if minorities could trust law enforcement more, then preventing shooting deaths from criminals would be a lot easier.
also there totally is an effort to stop black and black crime…
“Wow, the cops should take care of that, they are paid by the state to protect and serve the community and are provided extra rights and privledges to do so. This neighborhood is terrible. Holds candlelight vigil” -Community
Shooting takes place by a police officer
“We can’t trust the people whose sole job is to protect us and be trustworthy members of the community?! Let’s hold a peaceful protest about how there needs to be change.” - Community
“Hey! You random hooligan stop screwing up our peaceful protest by looting! That is counterproductive to our cause!” -Protestors
“That group of a dozen people is looting! Lets tear gas EVERYONE who is out on the streets!” - The Police
They aren’t seperate issues
Each one perpetuates the other because of the influence it has on the environment
If you can’t see that you are being foolish
Proportionally it’s not even close between public and cop on public violence so these “trust issues” seem overblown
Pointing out what a well you call it a movement I could dispute that too but I won’t
Your first post was sarcasm which was pointless
Though I’m glad to see that some people are calling out the blatant point of public on public crime ( a lot of it black on black) and why that doesn’t cause more of a uproar
Which it should because its one if the reasons shit like this story happens… mixed in with incompentance of police individuals.
My only premise is simply a evaluation of police should always come with a evaluation of the pulse of your community including all other incidents
The two aren’t mutually exclusive
Do we expect for random criminals to protect and serve the community or do we expect them to create problems?
There is a reason police are held to a higher standard and should continue to be. It’s their job to protect and serve and that is why we give them extra rights and protections.
Here is another thought, when a garbage man is killed on the job is there a televised press release and huge memorial service? Does the mayor of the city provide a statement? Nope, nobody but the close family bats an eyelash. Yet all of that happens for a police officer killed on the job.
Yet guess what? Being a police officer isn’t even in the top 10 for most dangerous jobs in the US but being a garbage man IS.
You wouldn’t have to be a cop. If you have a screw loose and a gun while in a position of authority you would have the right to shoot first without thinking.
