Alright, I got an idea.
For any newbies or whatever. Post the Pokemon you’d like to build a team around, or just your favorite. We’ll teach you everything from the context of that.
Switching is like the most important thing in pokemon. U-turn, Volt switch, double switching are extremely useful for keeping momentum and bringing in frail sweepers.
For example: For example, say I have Scizor, Starmie, and Dragonite while my opponent has TTar, Ferrothorn, and Gliscor. My Scizor is in on his TTar. Knowing Scizor is liable to OHKO TTar, my opponent switches to Gliscor as I U-Turn to Starmie. Now he’s in another bad position, as Starmie can easily OHKO Gliscor. However, his Ferrothorn walls my Starmie and his TTar can trap and KO it with Pursuit, leaving me without a rapid spinner. Instead of going for Surf or Ice beam to take out the Gliscor I switch to Dragonite, which can OHKO both TTar and Ferrothorn and potentially set up a sweep depending on the rest of his team.
I’d say it’s rare to see any pokemon in singles stay in for more than 2 turns unless they’re stalling or sweeping.
Switching is critical, which is why Stealth Rock is the number one used move as it wears down people who switch repeatedly.
I hate the move, but even I have to admit that Volt Switch and U-Turn would be broken without it. Hell, Volt/Turn is annoying as it is. Stay and fight, bitches! (Fuck Rotom-W and Scizor… damn gay lovers like Akuma and Wolverine)
Alright I want to build my team around martial arts based Pokemon.
I also would like a secondary troll team if possible cause I’m gonna wanna mess with people.
Well Martial Arts based, that’s Hitmonlee and Sawk and Throh really. I’d suggest only picking one of those three. You generally don’t want to double up on types unless absolutely necessary.
Troll Teams, plenty of those.
Between those 3 who’s the strongest and most effective?
See I was thinking martial based,psychic based and maybe rock based…is that a good combination?
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Hariyama(?)
Throh
Sawk
Mienshao
These are probably all you have to work with… Hariyama may not even quality, as sumo isn’t a martial art. Those are all fighting types too…
Well taking into account Phantom Angel’s list, Mienshao far and way.
Just mine, Hitmonlee but barely.
And let’s just focus on a singular pokemon first. Then we’ll teach you how teams are built and why certain things work and certain things don’t.
Sounds good, alright so ill work with mien first and go from there.
What do I need to know about him?
Alright, let’s run down Mienshao.
First off let’s run down its base stats (get used to doing this, this is very important in general for the game).
Health: 65
Attack: 125
Defense: 60
Special Attack: 95
Special Defense: 60
Speed: 105
The first thing that will pop out to you is that Mienshao’s attack is extremely high. 125 is very impressive. As a Fighting Type, this is no surprise but it’s still very exceptional. But the second thing to notice and the main thing is that speed. 105 is a VERY good Speed Stat. That means it can afford to stay in a bit more as due to High Attack and Speed, it can get one or two shots in before the opponent does and it will hurt.
But the downsides. Low defense and health. It hits hard but it cannot take it. But Mienshao has something to alleviate that greatly. It’s ability. It has 3, but there’s only one that you’ll want to use with this Poke.
Regenerator. If you don’t know what it does, when a Poke with Regenerator switches out it gains 1/3rd of its MAX HEALTH back. That means any damage it takes it can gain back on a simple switch. That is a simply amazing ability that’s made even better due to a certain move in its movepool.
U-Turn. 70 Base Power Bug Physical Move that will switch you out on usage. So not only does it give Mienshao great coverage against those pesky Psychics, it also gets it the hell out of dodge AND recovers its health all in one move. This move is your bread and butter with Mienshao. Use and abuse it.
Those are the basics of Mienshao. We can break it down more soon, but the above are things you should absolutely know. After learning the above comes the next step, which is deciding what role you want Mienshao to take.
When people say base stats, that refers to their stats upon leveling to their evolved form?
Sort of.
Pre-evolved pokes have different base stats from the evolved ones.
But without getting too technical with how they work and are discovered, they’re just the essential stats of a poke before taking into account Leveling, Effort Values and Individual Values. They are the Base, the purest expression of a Pokemon’s stats. You want to know how strong a poke is with Physical attacks and stuff, you go there, you don’t read the in-game as that can vary a bit.
He sounds like makoto…high offence but weak defence.
Sounds like a good type though the speed is very appealing…just wish his health was higher like 100 or something lol.
These stats change when be evolves right, cause when you factor this mega evolutions I imagine he’s even faster and stronger.
If Mienshao’s Base Health was 100 he’d be a better Scizor…
But yeah, he’s sort of like Makoto. The only difference is that you’re not expecting Mienshao to kill a team like you expect Makoto to destroy an opponent. Hit and run, wear them out with U-Turn. Predict a correct switch, someone gets Hi-Jump Kicked.
As for the stats…for one we don’t know if Mienshao has a Mega Evo. And secondly, Mienshao (short of said Mega Evo) is the fully evolved form. As such those stats will form the basis of his Level 100 stats. The numbers will look different (bigger obviously) but the base is the essential of how a poke will operate.
Now the end Level 100 stats CAN change a bit, mostly go up. But that relies on Effort Values and Individual Values. We can explain those now, but in terms of the strategy of battling they aren’t that important right now. But if you want, we can get those out of the way because they are hell to explain and they do play an important role in Stats and Type Coverage (in terms of IVs and Hidden Power).
So base stat is basically your “frame data” so to speak and how you want to judge the value of your pokemon. Interesting…
Exactly.
The Base Stats will form your “Frame Data” along with of course Move Stats and Typing.
Sure it would be great to know about that stuff…I also heard of something called recoil after his jump kick move.
Is that recoil like the recovery frames?
No recoil means you inflict damage to yourself.
In Hi-Jump Kick’s case, if you miss with the move (90% accuracy so it can) you’ll lose 50% of your maximum health.
It’s pretty accurate but suffice it to say use it at your own risk.
As for Effort and Individual Values it will be a LONG post. So all ya’ll get ready.
50%…WTF why can’t it be 30% lol.
Thanks man I appreciate all of this ill be waiting and checking out more too.
It’s complicated. Up until Gen 5, whenever the move would whiff, you would take half the damage the move would have inflicted had it hit (capped at 50% of Max HP). Also, the power used to be much weaker. The first 3 Gens it used to be 85 Base Power. Then it raised to 100 in Gen 4. Now in Gen 5 it’s a ridiculous 130.
In case you don’t know about STAB, I’ll run that down quick to explain. Every move has a base power (you know this) that’s always reflected in-game unless it has a variable power (Return, Frustration, Grass Knot, etc…). STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus) is simple. If a Pokemon uses a move it shares a type with, the Move gets a 1.5x bonus in base power. So quick example there, a Normal Type uses the Normal Type Move, Strength (80 Base Power). STAB kicks in and it becomes 120 Base Power.
Now in reference to Hi Jump Kick, 130 is already incredible. Take STAB into account (as Mienshao would get it as a Fighting Type) and it becomes 195 Base Power. That, along with Mienshao’s incredible attack and…well, if you’re not a Physical Tank that Resists Fighting, IT WILL HURT (especially with EV and Item Modifiers). Thus the potential for it to miss and the extreme backlash when you do.
Luckily for Mienshao, Regenerator lessens that risk since you can just duck out and heal with necessary.
Anyway, I’ll make the post on EVs and IVs tomorrow since it will take forever and I want as many people to read it as possible (newbies to read it, vets so they can double check my work). But I’m fine with answering anything else you want for tonight.