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giants are fun
definitely want 'em
I would like to see Galactus in the game.
I really like the Giants idea, but I hate the way it was implemented in TvC, and it kinda messed up tournies (EVO this year when people started booing Marn because he used just about the only thing you can do against a PTX). If they can implement it well, it’d be cool, but I would just like to play it safe and just not have giants. My vote is for no.
Wtb playable giant Apocalypse from XvsSF!!!
i have an idea of how giants can be implemented in MVC3 so please hear me out.
the X factor is something MVC3 is trying to use as a new mechanic right? give the giants something that uses that to full advantage.
kinda like the TRON JUGGY glitch? or something that they can use to be competitive in high level play.
and if giants were like how they were in TVC that means that 3v1 is an uphill battle because of strong keep away teams like deadpool and chris.
as far as ive seen if you have DP chris and IM as your team giants would be dead in a mattter of seconds.
deadpools annoying guns ( which i love BTW) chris grenades and IM speed and power looks like it will just murder the big slow guys.
so maybe have 1 team mate?? or have them have their own 2 assists??
MVC2 was all about the assists and they team make up right?
why not have the giants get some sort of assist?? if they had assists in TVC i bet you they would actually be used more.
especially Gold lightan who was ass cause he was just a big ass punching bag.
if you gave giants maybe 1 teammate or their own kind of assist and some kind of X factor boost maybe then can even things out.
i for one want to keep MVC3 as close as it is to MVC2 as much as possible BUT MVC2 has been out forever and sadly as fun as it is we need something fresh and new.
why not giants?? you dont have to pick them if they already said there is going to be 30 plus characters on the game.
whats 2 giants gonna do??
PTX for capcom was decent. its just that TVC game mechanics were just not very thought out. and it kinda worked against them.
it wouldn’t be a wasted spot IMO cause more than HALF of the cast of MVC2 was ass, and that game had a lot of characters and what like 10 or 8 characters are being used in most majors? , if they gave the giants something that you can use to be at least on par with the strongest teams then it may be fun to fool around with it.
in MVC2 you cant run a team of bottom teirs against MSP or any of the god teirs cause its would be instant death. ( or just pure rape)
its just not gonna happen.
all i want isn’t PERFECT balance but something that makes the game more varied and fun while keeping the competitiveness nature of the MVC series.
giants as i see it can be used in MVC if done right.
Hugo isn’t even that tall compared to Giant Man. Mecha War Machine?
There’s a problem though, it’s not a matter of the giants being overpowered or anything, it’s that they’re just so bloody annoying. You’re describing how they wouldn’t be that hard to beat with Deadpool and Chris and IM because they have good keepaway game, but the point is, why should we even have a character that makes you just play keepaway, it just makes it a boring fight for everyone.
MvC3 without Sentinel or a sentinel replacement would be weak.
But since Keits already said something along the lines of “character classes” and mentioned Hulk as a “giant” i wouldnt rule out the possibility of a sent, or a sent replacement.
MSS has to return of I will cry tears of blood.
yeah I felt the same way. If anything I think they should replace Sentinel with Nimrod or something and make a giant setinal as a boss, but honestly I would rather have that in a COTA sequel or something
maybe i wasn’t clear enough so here it goes.
giants naturally fall prey to strong keep away teams right?
since they are big and bulky and slow rush down teams just make short work of them as well. thus its making them not competitive by design.
so what do they really need? i only suggest that they get major tweaks to make them work under the current system since TVC just made them suck (gold lightan)
what can work is maybe having them have their own assist?
take PTX for example.
if he had some help laying down some ground fire so he can come in and cause serious chipp damage by chainsaw then he might be able to work for a win against the zoners.
( think strider doom sent)
and if you give him an assist that can help him land some heavy damage up close and set up situations for him then it can work. ( i dont play PTX that much but what i do know is its hard for him to get close and deal damage maybe some PTX layers can give insight?)
maybe like a land mine that controls space so he can safely get in and fight or some thing that deters runaway characters like storm so they have to run away smart or else they can get tagged by PTXs guns.
if he has a full screen type of assist as a1 it might help keep up with the zoners. and run away characters.
and some sort of captain corridor assist for a2 to keep the rush-down heavy type characters at bay for a little bit. or something that can control space.
PTX has guns, rockets, jet packs, and hyper armor, and a chainsaw.
if you tweak his moveset a little bit it can work. have his guns cover a lot of space and if comes out fast and you should be able to keep up with IM or storm flying around.
use his jet pack a’la sentinel in MVC2 for limited flight ( he is a big fucker but i know he has that hover for a few seconds that might help his mobility. maybe have it use meter? just something that can boost him across the screen fast enough but make it have a cooldown of some sort so its not abusable?)
hyper armor ( nuff said )
in tvc giants are throwable why they did this i have no fucking clue.
maybe have them be un throwable unless stunned?? ( i dont know im still thinking about that one)
and if they have at least have one other character as a partner the assist types can probably be used in different situations.
if he had psylocke SRK he can probably land his super more often.
or one that gives him meter so he can use it to chipp?
i dont know i just really want the giants in cause it brings more variety and play styles
to this game just please make them not suck ass like in TVC.
who knows BLODIA or PTX for capcom side and GALACTUS and onslaught for the MARVEL side?
dude marvel has some awesome giant characters this just gives it more varied choices on the roster. which IMO makes for a better game.
Seth and Niitsuma have both said there won’t be any giants in MvC3.
I saw those TVC Evo 2K10 matches featuring Giants… it was most boring shit I’ve ever seen in a fighting game. And that was tournament level.
It’s probably only fun for the people who realize how insanely hard it is to win with one, if I had a guess.
The changes you’re suggesting is just making Giants sound extremely broken. They have a shit ton of health, do a shit ton of damage, but they’re slow, and fall prey to keepaway game, that’s kind of balanced. If you get rid of the downsides, then you’re just making Giants broken. Also, I like giant characters, and I’m all for a varied roster, but the way giants play, and the way you are forced to play against Giants, is just boring, and not fun at all.
Thank God. These 09/10 members all for giants were scaring the shit out of me. It’d be neat if they could find a way to balance out the giants, but they don’t fit in the Marvel style.
Ok, you guys need to be clear.
Saying you dont want PTX is understandable. He’s extremely large and fucks up the screen. Having a MvC3 Sentinel, who would be just below the regular screen ration would be a MvC2 style “giant” and thus not very system-breaking at all.
Agreed, super armor Hulk/Jugg style Giant. I miss the good old Robot, hope he makes it in.
I saw that TvC Evo match with that huge robot and that made me want to fuck sand paper. I’m glad no characters like that will be in the game.
I still believe the Giants concept could work. They don’t necessarily have to be big and slow. They can just be really strong characters that take up two or more slots.