Playing with non-standard rules - will it make a change?

I meant touch of death and 30 second long combos. And yeah i signed up recently but I’ve been playing these games seriously way before SF4 and all that. Join date really has no correlation to how long you’ve been playing.

This is the problem with this idea.

Says who? Says you? Are you the expert? Can you speak for others?

I’m not calling you out, just pointing out the inherent fallacy in the idea that one group of people can decide the right way to play a game for others. Even in your MK example you don’t take into consideration other reasons a game might have survived or died.

About the only things that can be “altered” are things that are obviously wrong. For example, Akuma in ST is clearly broken, Items in smash give out an advantage entirely at random. The assumption that making changes like no gems, or no XF makes a game better is way to subjective to ever make it into an actual set of rules.

Says who? Says you? Are you the expert? Can you speak for others?

The difference is.

Akuma is broken is objective
Items are random is objective

Xfactor is bad is subjective
Gems are bad is subjective

See the difference? One is a fact, the other is an opinion.

I think you could make an argument that xfactor is as broken as akuma. that’s not really objective it’s just majority opinion

Subjective is a funny word, it’s just about all subjective, unless it’s a ‘using this move makes the game crash’ kind of thing.

The point is more that there has to be a truly overwhelming weight of opinion, or some kind of central authority (Akuma and Items respectively), and that simply doesn’t exist (and maybe can’t exist now, the scene is so much bigger and more varied)

if you are incapable of seeing the difference between st akuma and x factor, you shouldnt be arguing about what breaks or what doesnt a fg, seriously go learn a thing or two before trying to argue about stuff that you clearly dont understand
not liking something doesnt mean that its bad or broken

Did I ever say I don’t see the difference between them? Nice strawman argument.

Learn to read and argue without resorting to logical fallacies before you get in a grown up debate, son.

Actually, you missed the point entirely.

You can make an argument that XFactor is broken, fine. I can make an argument that it isn’t. That’s the point. its subjective.

You CANNOT make an argument that ST Akuma isn’t broken, or that Items are not random. Hence objective, it’s almost strictly factual.

*bitches at people for their join dates and saying they are old players. continues to talk down to everyone while signing up a week ago.

Actually someone very well could make an argument that ST Akuma isn’t broken. That doesn’t mean you or I will agree with them, but I’m sure someone could make that argument if they wanted to.

begins meta-argument about what broken means

That’s what Busta is getting at I think, its not like the game crashes when you throw an air fireball.

Edit: Not that they’d try, but it would be interesting to see if the Cannon Bro’s could make an Xfactor ban stick. Would be a fun experiment

see what i mean about you arguing for the sake of arguing
a character that he singles handy dominates the whole game with matches that go 9:1 or 10:0 in his favor is broken

It was a joke man, learn to read humor. If I actually wanted to start that argument I’d start it rather than doing a silly emote.

(again with the obsession. I’m sorry, I’m taken :p)

Not a sane argument, or one using actuall facts.

Uh, no it isn’t… Xfactor is retarded broken, whether you like it or not. Please remember that it was designed to be broken, because it’s marvel.

Are you… for real? Like, I just pinched myself, and it does look like you actually did say that.

Hold on, I’m gonna ask someone…

Yep, they see it too.

Look, the argument isn’t about whether you or I LIKE Xfactor (or the given mechanic), it’s whether its objectively broken. And it most definitely isn’t objectively broken.

please please please quit using the word ‘objectively’ ><

All its doing is making people want to ‘well actually’ you by being unreasonably absolutist.

You guys seem to fail at understanding the difference he is making, Basically he is saying it like this

Pokemon reference
If you cross another trainers path you WILL battle him

If you walk in the tall grass you MAY encounter a wild pokemon

The difference is one and forsure, not arguable and 100%. Akuma in ST os 100% Broken all His match ups are like 8-2 his Favor.

A coin is a random outcome, it is random (50/50) no matter how many times and flip it and get one side, say you flip heads 100 times in a row, Every time you flip its a random 50/50 chance.

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