Thanks for the constructive addition to the discussion. If you agreed or disagreed with anything being said, why not say it?
Lol. First of all, if I jump in with KW glitch and get away with it? Then you were just being stupid. Yolo KW glitch in 1v1 situations is a REALLY bad idea. And yeah, she is terrible without it. Zero is relevant because he’s WORSE than Bayonetta in the glitch department. Easily avoidable? Not if the connection is iffy. I guarantee it.
I do use people other than Bayo. Ask anyone here who plays with me on a regular basis. Yeah, I use her the most. She’s my main for a reason. It’s not a guaranteed kill either. Any smart person can get away from Bayo or even kill her if they survive the KW glitch.
Don’t come back after two years throwing salt all over the place. Really not a good look buddy.
Such a shame. I thought all the rage against me was reserved for GameFAQs. Guess I was wrong.
Are you being facetious? You’ll hardly ever seen a Bayonetta use the KW glitch except with A.) attacking from behind, B.) attacking in a group or C.) using rampage. 1v1 situations are pretty irrelevant, because most Bayo users don’t know how to use her without relying on the glitch. At best, they’ll turtle and/or run until a teammate shows up.
Of course, in the mindset of a scrub who does nothing but use the glitch in order to be successful, it would certainly seem this way. Never mind the fact that she has a cinematic HKW on the ground that probably has the fastest startup, her weak normals are jump cancelable, she has an infinite loop (that even if not used as an infinite, can lead into a guaranteed HKW), good damage throws, a decent 360, and a jump cancelable charged HKW that can also lead into big damage. I’m sure you know what the fuck you’re talking about, buddy.
How is he worse? He doesn’t have nearly as many options for combos as Bayonetta does. He either has to start with a strong attack or use a delayed weak attack and he can’t rack up the damage like Bayo can. Not to mention him doing double ground HKW actually costs him 4 full meter.
Because she’s borderline broken and you’re a scrub? Believable.
I’ve played against you plenty of times before. My PSN is Felix656. You’ve always used Bayonetta in the numerous times I’ve played against you.
Oh sure. I’m the scrub. So you’re Felix? Yeah. I’ve killed you plenty of times. This is just a salt rant. Ask anyone here. If you play smart? You can stop a good Bayo. Get good or get lost.
Also, don’t you main Baron? I wouldn’t bitch about KW glitch when you can one shot more than half of the people who play this game. Double standards must be a thing of the past.
Does killing someone in the game a couple times really mean anything? Cause I busted your ass multiple times in cage matches, so I guess my argument against bayonetta holds up. Logic. I don’t have anything against you like you say Felix does, but I think bayo is one of the things that have ruined the game and she is not as bad as you think she is without the glitch. She is still one of the best characters in the game without it.
Yo the pop-offs right now…!
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A good quote that seems to have gone ignored in this thread. Go figure.
You’ve killed me plenty times with the glitch, I’ve killed you plenty more times without it. That’s just the way the game is played. But I like how you ignored or just don’t know how to counter any of the refutations I’ve made to your arguments so far. Is it because I’m salty or because I’m right?
And I don’t main Baron. I hardly play Baron. I play every single character on the roster. The cloest thing to a “main” I have is Gargoyle. Your assumption was wrong, but even if you were correct, me using Baron or anybody else wouldn’t be a double standard. I’m not actively using and abusing glitches like you do, all the time. Sure, lagryuken sucks, but it’s not consistent and you can’t invoke it like any other glitch. You have to be on a shit tier connection or be from Australia.
You know? I’m gonna leave it alone. Any good player doesn’t complain about me. Ever notice that? Maybe you should get better before throwing the word “Scrub” around. Trust me. Once you learn the Bayo matchup? You’ll see how mid-tier she is even WITH KW glitch.
Mid-Tier even with KW glitch
Mid-Tier even with KW glitch
Mid-Tier even with KW glitch
Anybody who agrees with me is good. Anybody who disagrees is bad.
I’m sick of people reviving the KW Glitch topic. It always plays out the same every fucking time. I swear to god you people aren’t even listening to each other anymore, you’re just voicing the endless waves of salt that come over you every time you get your ass kicked. We’ve got the complainers on one side who will bemoan “glitching” for how it makes the game so unfair; and we’ve got the other side which always jumps in to defend it, trying to rationalize the use of it, while neither party will actually try to consider what the other person actually thinks and just mindlessly pursues “winning the argument”.
I don’t have any strong feelings one way or the other about KW Glitch because I use Douglas and get the job done regardless, and I’m not so fucking free to actually fall for any of this crap to begin with.
Are you happy with my “input” now? I choose the third side of the argument called “I don’t really give a fuck and neither should you.”
And that right there, is why you’re an idiot.
I didn’t typo.
I lol’d what does that make me?
Of course the kw glitch topic is going to be “revived” because it’s a plague on the game that is still affecting the game to this day. It’s not just going to go away simply because you ignore it. And @WeeGee88 aren’t you essentially doing the same thing right now? Mindlessly pursuing ending the argument while not considering what either party actually thinks?
Anyways, Douglas is pretty high up there on the tier list, but at least he’s legitimate. Good on you for doing well with him, I suppose.
I am parodying your post. You’re essentially calling yourself an idiot.
@Zane
Yeah well the whole glitches are interesting thing matters to me and maybe me alone. I’ve played with it and without it, I still play it. Personal opinions aside though, kw glitch helps get certain things like killing, keeping one safe in the air. Twitch/Anti Air cancelling helps that even more. On abusing kw glitch? Tell the Jack, Mathilda, and Leo players to use KW glitch. See how useful it is for them.
People sure do like the instant gratification bayo’s glitch does but against the smarter people? It’s not going to win. Maybe it’ll always work for those who have bad connections but hey, there are ways around things.
You want to start an argument on how characters need glitches to do things? Say the game is flawed? Sure, okay. We’ll put that in the opinions folder too since these tools help but don’t necessarily need. You can do fine as long as you pay attention, keep your defense up and use kw right.
No @Liam, connections make the game unplayable. Please play someone with 1 bar and say you can hit them. Fight players like Mirach and tell me you could hit him. My connection is decent with everyone I play with so I know its not me. I can at least get pass a “broken” ability or move from bayo but when you add connection issues, you cannot damage the other person. They will have armor when you hit them and one shot/damage you with certain moves.
AND LOL HAVE YOU EVER FOUGHT A ZERO?! He has WAY more tools than bayo cept he’d take more bars to kill (meter gain in this game is fucking quick too). You get hit by bayo? Prolly weren’t paying attention to your map or got hit by the ever so amazing bad connection rising attack.
Not going to talk about whether bayo is good or not cause that’s not a character I use a lot. I will agree she has tools besides the glitch.
Don’t take this to heart and get offended though. I’m only posting this to prove/disprove some things.
And please people, I know this is the internet and all but put the salt aside. There is no need to get mad at someone else opinions. There is no need to name call. Calling people that don’t know scrubs doesn’t help. If we are going to discuss on this forum, please provide some back up for your claims or they will immediately be dismissed(Or just ignore me anyway since this statement sounds really douchebaggy. Sorry I like seeing forums with good discussions.) Don’t want this to turn into Gamefaqs…
If anyone has any beef, take it out in the game. Got points to prove? Fight in the game, bro! Got a problem with this game? Don’t play it or continue to you masochist.
@Munoz, since the game’s connections are p2p, individual connection quality is highly dependent on both who the host is and who you’re playing against, so yeah, it’s fairly subjective. I’ve had matches that seem good but I’ll lag out in the middle of them or I’ll be unable to hit certain people because they have like an artificial hit of armor on them due to lag. But I wouldn’t say the game ever got to the point where I literally couldn’t play it anymore.
I’ve thought about Zero a bit more, and he has like 3 combo starters, where Bayonetta has like maybe 2. Still, I wouldn’t ever say Zero is a better character than Bayonetta. They both have the fastest KWH in the game, but Bayonetta’s does significantly more damage. Zero also has a great 360, but I think that’s the only other advantage he has (besides the double kwh). Feel free to notify me of others.
Guys need to chill the fuck down. You don’t like the way people play?
I’m sure there’s a GameStop near you. Just sell the game if you don’t like it. When it comes to dealing with people with KW glitches, you better learn to pressure those people. ME/GM doesn’t bode well even if they got it if you know pressure. You can’t just be making excuses about it.
I mean, I add pressure, and I still do somewhat well… and people will agree: Since I stopped playing and came back, I am the biggest scrub that has ever existed.
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Able to see a joke.