BayoWitch is an idiot. The best part is I learned KW glitch from HIM of all people. As far as the glitch discussion, think about it. What does Bayo have if they take away KW glitch and her infinite? Jack shit aside from raw damage that she has to be lucky to hit with. Her defense is ass. Her 360 is ass. Her health is ass. I think she needs it imo. Sure she can hard knockdown into a KWH. But when people see that LLH coming, they’re starting to get smart to 360 right when the knockdown is about to happen. And once she starts that kick, she can’t stop to block/avoid the 360.
It is what it is. Yeah, people hate glitches. Hell, I do too. But I don’t care about using them because I know other people won’t be nice enough to avoid using them on me. Hell, I’ve seen level 3 Bayos do it into crowds and score triple kills. It’s too widespread now to stop.
This isn’t “Gentleman Reigns”. It’s /Anarchy/. It’s meant to be played unfairly. People can deal or they can stick to campaign or trade the game in.
I think KW glitch is intentional anyway. I see Bayo CPUs do it fairly often in Mad Survival and even TDM or Tag Battle.
I don’t see what’s so broken about Bayo doing the raw KWH glitch, it’s really not that hard to get out of the way and punish it with a KWH since she has plenty of recovery. It can be kind of stupid when you get hit by it without ever seeing her… but everyone can do that with nearly as much damage anyway.
Zero’s double KWH on the other hand is retarded and I really wish it didn’t exist, nobody else gets nearly that much guaranteed damage from just throwing out a KWH.
Not only that. You can jab her at anytime before she comes down and stop her. And it still wastes the KW meter for Bayo. The glitch is far from OP outside of the damage.
The only thing that makes it broken is lag. That shit is like a fortress with a 5 second hitbox. I had a whole team of JP players doing that to me in one Team Battle. It was a truly horrifying experience.
I know it’s active forever, just like every other dumb j.KWH, which is why you ground KWH through it to punish while it’s still active. I don’t know why that works, but it does.
Not really the point of my post, but you could assemble far derpier teams than 4 bayos. At least she doesn’t have a dive kick/punch.
Zero has to be the most solid character in the game, he has every glitch/infinite and all of his standard attacks are good, as well as his delayed attack and KW attacks, hell his KWH is even a projectile if not a direct hit. He also has IMO the second best 360 after the Rins, because his is amazing at getting away from people with rage mode and it isn’t as easy to see coming, not to mention knocksdown the people you hit with it without launching them far away, so you can apply pressure to them after you land it.
I know right? And he edited his post a bunch of times to save face. First he was just pissed for having his cover blown, then he changed it up a bit to make it sound less butthurt, and more “lol haha you got me, I was just joking all along! xDDD”
Concerning glitches, people seem to be making a lot poor justifications for these glitches. And sometimes the double-standards boggle my mind. Bayo KWH is fine, but Zero double-HKW is a pain in the ass? The latter is FAR easier to dodge than the former.
I also don’t understand how other characters can do just as much damage with as little effort. Seriously, I’m genuinely curious as to which characters can lob of 90% of your health with a single-KW bar in as braindead a manner as Bayonetta.
And yeah, Bayo could still be good without the glitch. Not S-rank of course, but she’d still be a competent character. The people who rely entirely on it would be complete trash if the game were patched. I remember, when I first started playing online, I created a new account for the free 1-month XBL trial, and I clearly remember jumping 24 lvls (!!!) relying entirely on the Bayo glitch. When I went back to using other characters, was I still getting double-digit kills in DMs? No, of course not because I still sucked. That’s how bullshit the glitch is.
She has ways to get in. Bait a 360 with the light jab, then hit them with the launcher -> delay combo starter. There you go. But what’s more an interesting is that people need to justify the glitch because without it she would be lesser character. If anything that’s just admitting that AR is a flawed product. Characters needing glitches to be worth playing? Incredible.
And it’s a mechanical glitch. Of course CPUs will occasionally do it. That’s how coding bugs are. Doesn’t make it intentional. >.>
I feel the same way about Bayonetta. When I started to use her for a while to see what the hype was about, I started to notice how bad she actually is. The only thing keeping her afloat is the fact that if she hits you, you’re in trouble.
Yep yep, dude has everything with a side dish of free damage bullshit.
Update to my guide, I’m starting work on character synopsis. There’s a few I’m going to need from YOU guys.
Fei / Rin Rin
Ai Rin
Extra Zero input
Extra Durga input
Extra Leo input
Big Bull
Sasha
Mathilda
Everyone else I can do myself, thoroughly. It needs to be proficient and clear, what’s on there right now is just very early notes initial impressions from january-until now. Granted, I’ve probably put over 1000+ hours into the game already so my thoughts have to count for something, yeah?
It’ll all get organized and whatnot. For now, I just need to write stuff. I mean if no one wants to help that’s cool too… It’ll just end up lop-sided. Just giving people a massive combo list doesn’t help. They need to know how to start. How to learn their character.
I’ll post what I know since I play everyone… Do you know about comboing after aKW W? Requires kw meter to be at 2 or 1. After a rising attack or in the middle of hitting a opponent in a juggle state, hit em with aKW W then mash on weak. If you land after the Ws hit you can hit with lean attacks or grounded Ws. Adds some combo variety and with AAc, can probably make some interesting things up (especially in cage match). There is a video on it but I do not know who made it or where I got it from…
Yeah, if you run out of meter during an aLKW you can follow up with aW’s. It opens new juggle opportunities but I’ve yet to implement it outside of cage match.
Found that out a few weeks ago. Also just discovered Nikolai can do the same thing as douglas and the garbots, aW-aW-H but the window is extremely tight. Not useful, but still. Little tidbits of info are what is going to be put into notes section.