The people in the town PSU is in all stood by Paterno’s name, probably still do. Fuck 'em. That’s enough to warrant them getting fucked.
Punishments aren’t meant to help anyone. Maybe you need to look up the definition of the word.
As retarded as it is, I can’t get too mad at a town which had something very dear destroyed overnight react in a daffy way. I’m not trying to defend their actions, but I understand their emotions. This still not properly addressing the actual wrong doing; which is what has to be punished.
Goddam that avatar. It is making it damn hard to reply to shit.
having just heard of this (i live in australia now and they couldnt give a shit about non AU sports) the penalties seem WAAAY WAAAY to harsh.
not for those that were actually involved (though i do think that taking away joes wins is also to harsh) but i dont see the point in punishing those that werent involved… and unfortunately that is exactly whats happened… 99% of the people affected had nothing to do with it whatsoever… what about all the pennstate diehard fans? they’re fucked. what about the town that has come to rely upon the money that the college football team provides? theyre fucked as well. what about those people participating in the football program that had no idea that this was going down but will eventually lose there jobs in a shit economy? fucked again.
lets make it clear, the pedophile that did this and those that helped him to do what he did should be lead out and punished accordingly… locking that molester in gen pop will be good enough… the inmates will f@$% him, beat him, then kill him before the day is over. the people that knew about this should all be fired and barred from taking employance at any school from there on out… and… well, thats it. done. everyone accountable is accounted for. the people that were good people get to go on living, fine the university for employing the bad people in the first place, as well as mostly to serve severence to the victims (though no amount of severance would ever be enough… it would … help)
seeing people that had nothing to do with the crime, get punished, makes my blood boil as does knowing that those that participated in the coverup still have there fucking jobs… on the outside from reading the little that ive read… this seems like one of the dumbest things ive heard… all around. also, the pedos non profit should continue going, but it should be re-named and have any of its association to pedo, taken away… but if it was managing to do some good i see no reason to throw the entire thing away… if it were doing some good. if it wasnt then can the organization.
to me it just seems like common sense
-dime
Yes it has. Sandusky was charged with 45 out of 48 counts. He’s going to jail for his crimes. I don’t know if this settlement with the NCAA protects the university from civil damages but they will lose badly in court and that’s more millions.
It’s punishment for your stance on this issue.
I must be the only one who likes Razor’s avatar, I approve.
Raz0r’s Av is… hypnotizing… I approve… I approve… I disapprove… I disapprove…
:tup:
Razor’s av is compelling me to agree with everything he’s saying…
oh wait, i already agreed completely.
Fuck Penn State.
The reason is because it sets a precedent for any type of wrongdoing of the institution to be severely punished.
This is to serve notice to programs not to just look the other way at shit that happens. While it’s true that Sandusky, and the people that could have done something are no longer there if the “but they’re no longer there” excuse is allowed to save schools from being hammered, then more shit will be allowed to go down.
For instance lets say a few coaches are hiring prostitutes for players, and the athletic director knows about it, or at least COULD/SHOULD know about it, but is doing his best to be dumb, deaf and blind when it comes to the issue. With the precedent set that just firing the people involved will save the program he may just let that shit ride. It’s good for morale, and the players are cool with it, so why should he care, and if he’s caught? He can just get rid of everyone and pretend he doesn’t know, AND even if he is implicated for not being on top of things, he’ll know that his non action wont damage the program for the future. Plus prostitution where all parties are willing is FAAAAR less heinous than child molestation. With this in mind he’ll probably put an end to that shit immediately because he knows that shit will really hit the fan if he doesn’t.
All that said this is the ONLY reason I agree with this ruling. I think considering that the people involved are no longer there this is way overboard of a penalty to impose on Penn State because the fallout will hurt hundreds, if not thousands of people. On the other hand college athletics can have a very ugly side to it, and perhaps the message sent by this will have some unseen good effects that will be worth the people it hurts.
College sports especially football has a strong ugly side that hasn’t been addressed until now. Boosters paying players families, athletes raping women, DWIs. You name it anything out there that can easily be dusted under the rug was. Lets be honest here Penn State is only known for there football program nothing else. Now I’m curious what field of study is considered the “best” on the campus?
I totally forgot about the missing DA…
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He said he responded awhile back…
Not sure if you sent another or if you missed his.
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How often have we heard of collegiate institutions covering up unlawful activities like child molestation?
While these institutions often cover up other activities where the NCAA could punish them ( I think someone mentioned hiring prostitutes, student athletes accepting gifts illegally etc etc), child molestation is a different type of crime these days in comparison. Given who was involved at the top, and had the power to really do something with the accusations, I’m not sure Joe Paterno really took it that seriously. I’m of the opinion that child molestation was looked at differently by previous generations, albeit wrong because a child can’t defend himself, but not necessarily a crime. It’s different these days. In a way, I feel like if this were to occur at a school with a younger administration or younger coach, there’s no way a more thorough investigation isn’t done as opposed to what happened at Penn State.
Completely disagree. “The Tree” in the Penn State situation had been cut down so to speak. Just about everyone involved in the scandal no longer works at the school, facing legal charges, or in Joe Pa’s case - dead.
Everyone that saw or got wind of it? Everyone who whispered in the halls about the molester as he walked around with that shit eating grin?
Seriously that grin was creepy.
From what I remember there are still a few people lingering who had some involvement through lack of action. I could be wrong, things could have changed since last I read the reports.
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yet, that’s where the punishment for the most part is taking place.
he was using his position in power as head of a charity for damaged kids, there was no “junior football program”. he was a former coach at penn state which is why he had access to the facilities…if he didn’t, he’d have been raping the kids at some other place.
was he raping recruits or players? nope. was he on the staff at the time? nope. the only thing football related is the 4-5 people’s motives. if the head of campbell soup turns out to be friends with and covering for a child molester bcuz the guy reformulated the broth recipe, the FDA throwing all the chicken noodle and cream of mushroom in the ocean and shuttering the factory isn’t the correct course of action, locking their asses up is. and with regards to penn state, that’s already happened as all of the responsible parties are either in jail, on trial or dead. all this bullshit right now is a bunch of university presidents putting on a show for the public, and privately thanking god that sandusky didn’t land in their lap bcuz they would’ve most likely covered for him just like PSU higher ups did.
A more recent one. The rest of the thread will have to be a stalemate GG. Most of you are out for blood and acting like it was the town’s fault that it happened as opposed to some people in charge scheming.
Edit: Before anybody tries to go full retard on me, I understand that there is a punishment that needs to be handed to the institution. But it would be a lot more productive of the NCAA to help those the program hurt than indirectly punish the rest of the town harder.
the idea was that joe pa and penn state covered this shit up in order to make sure joe pa could achieve new records in wins.
by stripping those wins, they make sure that shit didn’t benefit them at all.
But they already got all the wins. So for all the years in which Sandusky was there doing damage to children, the school was benefiting from his skills as the defensive coordinator. All this really does is encourage other schools to tighten up harder.
not anymore they don’t.
Nigga don’t be stupid. There were plenty of students who had to watch their schools lose on TV; which means that a lot of money went to the school during those years already. All of this affects the current students.
So the school already did benefit substantially from keeping Sandusky there. What the NCAA is doing amounts to playing make believe with record sheets and avoiding the main issues.
After what they did to USC, anyone who expected something less was being naive.
as far as I can tell, the Penn State program pretty much received a ‘death penalty’ without actually receiving a death penalty