(…has the urge to do that now even though he likes mice)
I see. I suspected as much, but duly noted. I suppose it just seems like Devil’s Advocacy because it’s so counter to what most people are saying, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing; it’s why I put “minority view” in that parenthetical.
That said, the remaining people who kept it quiet can only “not get found out” if people let them. I’d argue that this punishment also hasn’t helped in that it seems to be distracting people from that, though it again shows where a lot of people’s priorities are–not talking about you, personally–in that they’re still too focused on football/big “sports” to care about the closest they can get to actual “justice” and accountability.
Shrug. Students are fucked regardless. Big surprise.
Fuck 'em. They ignored child molestation because they didn’t want to tarnish their precious football program and do whatever they had to to win. This sends a strong message to other teams to do the right thing instead of keeping their sports program in front of other pressing issues. Paterno and the college board knew children were being molested on Penn State property yet decided to shut the fuck up and sweep it under the rug. Innocent children were devastated for life over a a game.
The students have the option to leave to other division one schools so it doesn’t hurt them. Students who graduated will get over it, and unless they went to the NFL they should have accomplished more important things in their lives other than playing a fucking game. The town can get fucked, too. Have you seen the interviews with people supporting Penn State? They think Paterno’s a saint when he’s just an asshole who decided his program was more important to keep clean than the destroyed assholes of young boys who put their trust into an adult they thought was safe. He had a moral obligation to address it and didn’t and I for one am glad his reputation is tarnished and his wins stripped.
And for those dick nuggets who can’t see that you are pretty much a shit dick yourself. Get fucked, fuck your mothers, and fuck off.
Boel works at Penn State and he said in one of his serious posts(which are rare) there actually are alot of people there who think Joe Paterno deserves to be forever stained. They just do not speak nearly as loudly as the other nutjobs. Ironically most of the people defending Joe Pa are current students at Penn State. So yeah a bunch of teenagers and young people who don’t know shit about shit but think they know everything.
Ha, the demographic of the people who are still defending Paterno sounding oddly similar to the demographic of people who voted Putin back in. Dumb-asses.
Yeah, though I wouldn’t necessarily call it mind-blowing, at least to me; I’m not just saying this to be my usual jaded self.
Considering how much pain child molesters can cause with by “just” molesting a child or two, it’s really not surprising how much damage he caused given he might have easily raped more than a hundred children since 100+ (117?) is apparently the average for long-term pedophiles. It’s doubly damaging because he was basically (implicitly) sanctioned to do it by a lot of people who were higher-ups, who all actually had the power to stop it.
Like I said above, the students that stay there are pretty fucked over by this in general as is the town, though I care far, far less about the town.
The fact that the school and the local community/economy was so closely tied to the football team is probably a big reason why some of these stories got swept under the rug in the first place. Of course the situation sucks for the innocent students, but there might not have been such collateral damage if some of the Penn State big wigs had the balls to call out Sandusky. For all their shadiness the school was still shamed and punished anyway.
I actually know how much pain a child predator can cause. But take into account that he was also a mentor to a lot of high schoolers, ran a non-profit which helped poor children and that his actions (along with all the nonsense from the administration) just about destroyed a good chunk of the local economy.
Sandusky was a social/economic/emotional nuclear bomb. Considering all the stuff I try to process from the anthropology degree, the world of hurt he created just hurts my head to process.
What the NCAA did was necessary for Penn State to feel a true sting over this scandal. They really believed the mantra “Do what you gotta do to win” and it cost the university their morality. By the NCAA limiting scholarships, preventing them from getting into any post-season division one football contest for years, and stripping them of wins they are taking away MILLIONS of dollars, if not billions, that they would have gotten through the time where they covered the scandal. It’s an appropriate punishment for a school who put a football program over the lives of boys who looked up to these coaches.
For years they won’t get good players. YEARS. The ones they have now will take options at other division one schools so their championships will count. Their football program will suffer and fall immediately to last place. it’ll take them almost ten years to rebuild. And limiting their scholarships is also a good thing because it should go towards schools who don’t let boys get assfucked by some dirty old man.
If this wasn’t addressed the message the NCAA would send is doing anything to win is alright and forgivable. Is that the message you want your organization sending to young, impressionable children?
This does absolutely nothing to prevent/make it harder for it to repeat itself in the future. This also does nothing to help all those kids benefiting from the non-profit Sandusky had created. Instead of helping with the real pain of the situation, they took the easy way out.
They did what they could with the power they had. After all, it wasn’t NCAA who hid a man who raped children. The next step is up to PSU and that’s even if they will bother doing anything about it.
They fined a college program and did nothing. Meanwhile they continue to make hella money off of the athletes. They didn’t really punish a school for doing something wrong; they punished it for making them look bad.
They’re a business. You’re opposed of them making money? Raping young boys is a completely separate class because it’s fucking ILLEGAL. If you don’t think it’s right for the NCAA to make money off of collegiate athletes that is a completely different issue and you know it.
(Yeah, I can agree the punishment more about them looking bad and punished than it is to rectify “wrongness”.)
America has a strong culture of making examples of people to satisfy temporary outrage, but not ultimately doing anything about the problem.
That said, given what Raz0r pointed out, even assuming they had given Penn State an ultimatum, would that ultimatum have really have had any weight behind it?
The point is that it benefits no one. Do you know how much money Penn State makes off of its football program? It brings in an annual $50 million in profits, for a fucking university. That’s not including the money it brings in for local businesses that also wanted this story buried and Paterno’s legacy kept clean. They did help the athletes in PSU’s football program by allowing them to transfer to other division one schools without penalty. They punished exactly who needed to be punished in a manner they could do it with.
So please, explain to me how you think this hurts the students in the football program.
It doesn’t address the actual issues which led to the incident and the continued silence on it. NCAA money is big money. They get to market the games, athletes and video games. Citing the local business is making a claim for a huge conspiracy theory that all of the business were hiding this shit. The only people we know for sure knew about this were dude who caught sandusky, paterno, and the chain of command there after. We also have the DA who disappeared.
Since this is punishing an entire football staff, local economies, future potential players, and doing nothing to help the community rebuild itself after a shocking even centered about a football program held in high regard or helping the bunch of children who made a lot of use of Sandusky’s non-profit, this accomplishes nothing. Explain to us how this helps anybody. Because it doesn’t. Its a punishment for the sake of punishment. Bad apples are still there and we have to hope they leave.