Penn State Punishment: Too Harsh, Just Right, Not Harsh Enough?

The Damned I just started reading it again recently, have not finished it yet.

I think they should probably have their football program completely shut down. Other schools have gotten trophies taken away for players taking money to play, which by any rational persons’ belief; is much better than raping little kids by luring them to school funded football camps.

Apologists should feel sorry for themselves. Penn State also has a school, there are other draws there than football (you’d hope). You have a choice, you’re paying to be there. You’re paying someone to be loyal to them. That’s fucked, this isn’t medieval times. Transfer to another or better school and move on with your life.

NCAA rules go out the window when real laws are being broken. We’re not even talking controversial laws. If this fucker wasn’t some legendary football coach people and ran a high school people would be calling for his head and for him to be raped and for all his principle of the year awards to be thrown out the window.

Sports are evil.

Bring back gladatorial games.

Make the criminals fight to the death and sell it pay-per-view to feed the orphans.

hey, I went to Temple…sooo…
“now Temple is 7-0 against Penn state” - Raheem Brock

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I also don’t really follow college bowl, so let me understand this thing about Penn State’s football record…does this mean that the wins dating from 1998 no longer count? Regular and Post Season?

But the problem is with higher management. Sandusky should’ve been prosecuted and could’ve been replaced easily. There’s probably a good dozen people that would’ve fucked Sandusky in the ass just to get his job. The issue is why does a whole program have to go eat a dick because of one asshole, an old man who passed it a long and then, the real issue, that real cute board of directors who didn’t do shit about it.

Instead of saying something like “It appears that the current administration of Penn State let a child molester indirectly use the school’s football program along with a non-profit he founded to get victims. Until all board members resigned, Penn State is barred from NCAA competitions” we get, “Yo what’s good? Dickslaps. And also get new players” (so far it seems that only one board member has resigned, looking to see how many are on the board and how many in total have).

NCAA should look out for the best interest of the athletes and people associated with them. Sandusky already hurt the athletes, the program and the community. So what does this fine do to help anybody? Actual meaningful changes they could implement to stop the possibility of this happening in the future would take time and money. The fine is the real easy way out.

When the root of the tree is bad, you have to cut down the tree.

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That would be correct, they never happened.

Did I miss the part where the defensive team was gangbanging a 4th grade class? The tree didn’t need chopping, it needed pruning.

Wow…that’s harsh.
I wanted Penn State Football shut down for 5 years…I think that’s worse.

And the ruling is permanent?

Yes it is, they actually did show a bit of leniency by not giving them the Death Penalty which is what alot of people wanted.

Thanks for the image?

I worked for a company that had corruption throughout the top levels. They only removed the head figure and many people in the company should have been let go because they knew what was going on and did dirt themselves…the organization never bounced back because the lower levels never changed.
In order to make any real change happen, there had to be drastic measures.

Gang bang 4th graders though?

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I whole heartedly agree. I also think that we want the same thing for Penn but we aren’t getting.

Universities are gossipy places. They are to the brim with all sorts of information all over the place. The problem is that there is no investigation to show the actual scope of the problem. Pinning it all on the football program is short sighted at best and unbridled idiocy at its worse. But the Sandusky issue already left a student body all fucked up, a bunch of players with more scars than they earned and a town with its world upside down.

Somebody correct me if new details have been exposed but what we know is that somebody from the staff heard something going on with a child and Sandusky, he passed it on to Paterno who turned and passed it forward. That means that there’s a whole chain of command that needs to be sacked harder than the people in the Holy Grail intro.

But while this seems like they are punishing the program, what really gets to eat is a bunch of players already there, the students who could have played for Penn and the local economy that relied on the games. All the people who will lose the most out of Sandusky’s action are all the ones tied to the money which the football games brought.

So the majority of the people who actually lose out on the punishment have nothing to do with what happened. That’s why this is shitty.

When sports is more important than anything among these campuses it shows. And it is showing very strong here.

Stomp 'em in the nuts.

@pertho but they cannot sack them all…it may be seen as retaliation and land them in more trouble.
Cutting the scholarships will bring in average players. Non-winning team will bring on salary cuts or freezes. Lack of money will get them to leave.

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You hope. People with cushy jobs will do ridiculous things to keep them. You know like not reporting a child predator to the authorities properly.

(I see, jae hoon. Understood.)

As much as may ultimately disagree on this, Pertho, I applaud you playing Devil’s Advocate (or arguing the more minority view) respectively. That said…

Oh, I completely agree even though I don’t care about football. Hell, as I say in that post, I’m neither sure the punishment is even remotely “fair” nor am I endorsing its “fairness”.

Unfortunately, as also said at the top of the post your quoting, there’s little “meaningful” actions that the NCAA can take against those that remain. Although a good suggestion (if the NCAA indeed has that power), I’m not even sure the resignations would be that meaningful, unless they also had the power to bar the same people from being board members of any other team (which I doubt they do), or much “punishment”. It would make more sense, I suppose, but…yeah, just that by itself probably wouldn’t “fly” with the public, fitting punishment or not.

I think we can all agree that Penn State is being made a public example independent of how we feel about the punishment.

Regardless, the point of what your quoting was pointing out that thurst’s ridiculous claim that the incident that the NCAA is punishing Penn State for had nothing to do with the football program was bullshit more than anything else. There’s a difference between saying the current players shouldn’t be punished and saying that the football program as a whole is entirely innocent, and thurst did the latter despite Sandusky using it as his pedo-playground for more than a decade with the knowledge of at least several higher-ups.

When the money isn’t rolling in, it isn’t so cushy.

Zing on that response though…

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From what I understand, sports programs are supposed to generate their own income and are not allowed to use regular school funds to fund them (as from the people I’ve spoken to, this is at least true of Texas). So this would really choke the hell out of many of the employees already there.

On another note, tell your man to check his PMs. :rofl:

I’m not trying to play the devil’s advocate. The truth is that most of the people who will suffer had nothing to do with it and those who kept quiet are not gonna get found out for a while. What the NCAA is doing is swinging a wrecking ball to kill a mice.