There are sports analysts talking that because of these penalties, it may actually take a couple of decades before Penn State is back on its feet fully.
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uh, what? How can you think NCAA want people to forget this? They’ve destroyed the football program of one of the top tier football schools in the country. Nobody is going to forget. If anybody wants people to forget this situation, it would be Penn St.
for some people, yes.
personally i don’t care about college football as a whole, so that’s why i find the comparison humorous.
Yeah, but the NCAA image doesn’t want to bew associated with it, so they will do their best to bury the issue, and thats a part of all this, especially the wins.
Frankly I think pulling the wins was bullshit.
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If anyone thinks this story can be buried by anything other than time they are deluding themselves. It looks a lot more like they just want to make a lesson out of Penn St. to any other sports school who might try to sweep a scandal under the rug that might reflect poorly on their cash cow sports program.
And I don’t see what the NCAA has to be worried about PR wise. Their connection to this scandal is tangential at best.
oh yeah its going to be a time thing, and thats sorta what this does. I mean I agree it IS an ‘example’, but think about it, it also means that Penn St disappears from the public radar for the next 4 years as a program since its a pseudo death penalty - and then of course its going to take another 4+ years before they can even begin to field a truly competitive roster, let alone when they become contenders again. The school and their mark will be essentially whiped for this generation…almost akin to SMU, which I only know about BECAUSE of the death penalty being talked about with this.
The only comfort Penn St should have, compared to say SMU…its a HUGE school with a HUGE following, a HUGE alumni, and a name big/strong enough - that unlike the aforementioned SMU, I hopnestly think it will recover and I think it will do it quicker than some analyst think, but I could easily see them back on the rankings in 8-10 years because of the sheer school.
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On the contrary. What ever happened to this?
www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
You probably haven’t heard about Gricar since that article, there is probably a reason for that. People forgot that detail pretty quickly, so aside from bowl games and recruiting, this won’t be talked about much, if at all.
Every single person involved or connected to child molestation should be burned alive at a publicly viewable location.
This is includes people who told lies and covered for others but didn’t actually do anything themselves. They are just as guilty as anyone else.
BURN THEM AT THE STAKE.
They still get to play and it’s not like they were really using those scholarships on good players or getting to bowl games that mattered anyway.
In four years they will be back to losing all the best players from PA to the SEC and getting to the Pepto Bismol bowl against some MAC team just like they used to.
Can this why did the punish the current players nonsense stop. People are acting like this is just now happening, when the current players always get punished. The sins of the father are passed down to the son.
Also the program can burn to the ground for all I care. They should have taken all his wins for knowingly covering up for a Child Molester for the sake of FOOTBALL!
The fact that people are defending Joe Pa is mindboggling.
Like I’m going to watch a 25 minute video about Penn State. TL;DR that shit.
first I’m hearing of it and wow! Very intriguing stuff
We are note defending Joe Paterno per say but a lot of the players and other staff that also get dragged through the mud for shit they didn’t do. All they’re really doing is playing make believe about what was accomplished on the field which is completely unrelated to what happened with the administration.
This isn’t a football matter. This is a “what the fuck happened that top universities administrators were told of a possible child molester and didn’t do anything properly/ what the fuck is up with Paterno letting that dude stay with the program instead of giving him the boot?” The dropkick should’ve aimed a hell of a lot higher. Instead they are taking the easy way out.
This is a complicated situation and the NCAA took the easy/dumb way out.
A fair punishment would actually do something for the victims. This slaps the real perps on the hand while severely punishing people who had nothing to do with it. I’d like to see the administration looked at under a microscope form the top down. someone there knew something.
considering the crime committed had NOTHING to do with football, i think the penalty is pretty stupid. they don’t want joe pa in the record books because he did some foul shit, which is bullshit because at the end of the day he did win those games and all of those players that played for him did, too.
the loss of money and scholarships is fine, but ultimately just to make people feel better since nobody who was responsible for this shit is getting punished by either of those things.
All of the fines from the 60 million is going to victims of child sexual abuse.
No matter what happens, no one will ever mention Joe Pa’s name on a sportscasting level ever again. The whitewashing isn’t just on a national level either. I live in the Scranton area where nearly everyone is big Penn State fan, that dedication is evaporating as well. Last year flags and lion statues were throughout most of the neighborhoods, but today I see very little pride and and very few trying to defend it.
As for Penn State being ruined, it is a major blow to the college. At least the players are getting the chance to jump ship.
I feel no sympathy for Penn state. They’ll have to hold that to their chest for a very long time
(This is totally unrelated to anything: Master jae hoon, have you read Singled Out yet?)
Yeah, this will unfortunately likely end up hurting students who had nothing to do with it a lot more than anyone who actually needs to be “hurt”. Still, there’s nothing that those doling out the punishment probably could have done to actually punish those offenders. People are already talking about it overstepping its bound with this ruling as it is.
How then, exactly, would this body be able to punish all the remaining offenders appropriately who were actually involved beyond Paterno and Sandusky when it has no authority to arrest them (or worse)? Again, it’s not like Penn State would get off not being penalized in some capacity and there was no way Penn State was getting a (transparent) slap on the wrist, so…
The monetary amount of whatever millions of dollar–$66(0) million?–that Penn State is being fined will supposedly all be donated to causes nation-wide that fight child abuse, so they kinda are.
Whether that’s all they should have done and whether it’s enough for said victims are entirely different matters, especially since I’m pretty sure a lot of civil suits against the school (or individuals like Sandusky himself maybe) are still pending.
…What? …Are you actually, like, serious?
Wait, don’t answer that.
The crime itself might not have had to deal directly with what happened on the football field, no, since it indeed wasn’t like those cases of illegal betting or fixing games or purposely trying to injure people or whatever that other football programs/teams have been penalized for.
However, you are either being willfully blind or outright idiotic if you think it had nothing to do with football when Sandusky was using the junior football program to pick out kids to rape and a bunch of people knew about it and still said nothing because they were too busy worrying about protecting the college football program rather than kids.
(I bold this not out of anger, but because of how damn obvious it is.)
Is that really so difficult to understand? I’m not saying the punishment is necessarily “fair” overall, but saying that the crime itself–including the cover-up–had absolutely nothing to do with the football program is just delusional bullshit.