PC: SSF4 AE - How is it online?

Ports open/closed doesn’t affect lag (just if you have them closed, you can’t play with other people that have them closed)
Your connection to other people is what matters for determining lag, so you got lucky (he probably was closeby, had a stable connection and lots of Upload).

SF4 doesn’t have good online (not on PC either), and no it has nothing to do with GGPO at all
I have no idea what “input prediction” is even supposed to be rofl

As far as I understand, If the ports are opened, the data “packages” which are send and received dont go through the firewall of the router, so they are less processes, hence the transfer is faster. Same with the DMZ thing, which opens all pathways as far as I understand.

vulpes is correct. the data packages always go through the router. if the ports are closed you couldn’t establish a connection to your opponent in the first place. and no… the sf4 netcode doesn’t use something like input prediction, it’s instead lag based like the majority of online games.

I dunno but it certainly cuts delay more than other games do, I know that for a fact so there is a certain degree of delay reduction from usual lag-based netcodes.

Hey guys, I’m curious about picking up AE for my laptop, but I don’t know if I can run it since I have Windows 8.
I bought last month and I already have The Old Republic installed on it

Here are the specs:
It’s an HP pavilion g7 Notebook

AMD A8-4500M APU

AMD Radeon HD 7640G

Windows 8 64-bit

Hard drive: ST640LM0 01 HN-M640MBB SATA Disk Device w/ 492.53 GB left after a month of use.

Does anyone even play PC AE anymore? I purchased it over the summer, and during peak hours, or late at night I could only ever find two or three lobbies at most, and all of them were orange or red barred. Ranked has maybe up to five matches at any given point, but they are all a minimum or orange. I can’t believe that the PC version could have worse online than the consoles, but either it does, or due to how there are fewer players comparatively, I’m only connecting to players quite a distance away (I’m on the west side of PA).

Anything less than a full bar connection and the match is unplayable. One thing thats much better on XBL.

I’ve been playing on pc and xbox since vanilla, and I always felt that pc version was much worse! I only play friends on pc nowdays.

green bars are almost always really good… yellow bars are hit and miss

Take a gander into this group on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/UYG.AE.PC/

I’m in that group. It’s really active and there are a lot of great players there.

I just got the PC version myself and the connections are excellent. I think I’ve only had two of the 75 or so matches I’ve played lag at all.

EDIT: Ah Wade this is you! dots connecting

Are these players in all private rooms? I don’t use Facebook, and I’m not going to sign up just to view that list.

Anyway, just looked at the game again and this is actually considered a “good” night apparently, because it’s almost always much worse for me on average. I don’t have these kinds of problems with any other PC specific games either. It also seemed like when HD Remix came out, it was easier to find matches that had a lot lower ping. Now it’s just these generic, all encompassing bars that usually just mean “crap” to “completely unplayable”.

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XBL and PSN are barely any better either. When both Vanilla and Super were new, it seemed like due to how many were playing online at the time, it was also a lot more consistent getting decent games that didn’t lag all to hell (obviously not the same as local, but links were easier to perform and didn’t simply drop as often). Just about every “green” game degrades to yellow after a single match most of the time as well. I don’t play wireless, and I always play connected directly to the modem, without a router. My ping to various test sites (whatever that’s worth) always shows sub 50ms.

PC is practically dead compared to 360 and the skill level is pretty low. You can still find people to play but it’s like one good guy a day if you’re lucky, a few willing to learn, and a bunch of online tactics with hilariously bad lag every other game otherwise. A couple of people on here hype up PC but they’re playing in private games or something cuz it just ain’t like they say it is. Everyone is in ranked and there’s like 2 endless lobbies up at once if you’re lucky. For players in the US, anyway.

Getting games on 360 is still really easy, and the competition is much better. The only time you probably won’t find a ranked game instantly is during 3AM-5AM, and I literally have been unable to not find more than 3 endless lobbies during the least active times. But these days, most people simply do not have a good connection with those farther away. The ping reading is even flakier than the PC version - you kind of have to play the opponent to know if they’re connection is decent, as the bars usually don’t mean shit regardless of making a game or looking for one. That being said, everyone shouldn’t be “degrading” as you say they are. That sounds like an ISP issue. Could just be that there’s a 5:1 ratio with East Coast players now though…

Shouldn’t be, but they do. The only seemingly “always green” matches I get are from people around me that I know within a fifty mile radius. Those are just the distances that I’m sure of, and I have no idea who I’m connecting with on XBL, but I’d assume that it wouldn’t be that bad trying to connect to NY/NJ. Could be an ISP issue, because I did have problems with them in 2008 for about six months until they finally added more servers. Since then though, my connection has been pretty stable for most everything. I thought what determined online matches anyway though was not just your connection, but those who you’re trying to connect with on top of the distance. So many people play with either wireless, or connected to routers in houses where multiple people use the internet. It would be interesting to know how a match between someone on Fios in NY trying to play against someone in CA with the same service would look like.

Yeah, um…I don’t know what to tell you. If you feel like AE PC is dead then who am I to try to convince you otherwise. Yeah, it’s dead.

Aren’t you supposed to also forward port 443(UDP)?

forgot to add: PC >>>>>> PSN

i haven’t touched the PS3 version since PC came out… never will, except at tournaments

That’s nice. Did you even read my post before replying so flippantly? Did you even look at my screenshots? Asking if all of those games were private isn’t the same as saying “I don’t believe you”. I just know that the public scene is pretty dead on most nights.

AE PC is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I think its better than PS3 and not as good as Xboxlive. Yes… I have all three versions haha
All three seem pretty similar, the difference is very slight but noticeable if you’re tuned-in enough to hit 1 frame links

Misinterpreting my post. I’m simply agreeing with you. Nothing flippant about that.