jump straight up FP and mk are pretty damn good as an anti-airs (I believe FP stuffs bison stomps)…other than that I agree…nothing actually hits well vs. standing opponents cept lk, and it has to be deep to combo.
as a fellow cammy player, i feel your pain bro, sometimes i feel the same way, but for some reason i keep coming and coming again only to play with her, even when my win rate is 46%, i cant give up on her, its been like 8 years of playing with her in almost any game that she appears.
Dont give up Jchensor, thre is a reason why we play with her, the time would pay off, im sure :rock:
cammy is just a very crappy character design along with fei long. at least game play wise
the only game where cammy is good (cvs2), shes a bit too good but also very one dimensional
Stop being a bitch and play Viper. :lol: Everyone thinks she’s low tier like Cammy but you’re going to come up out of the ashes as a broke ass character.
I think it’s safe to say that you didn’t even have to play as Cammy to realize she was gonna suck in this one. The pre release vids of her gameplay weren’t very promising. There was nothing that made me go “man I wanna use her”. Cammy hasn’t been the same since ST. CVS2 Cammy is good but she still doesn’t play the same as ST Cammy. There’s no point in trying to get Cammy to work in a different game. Which is why I wouldn’t be all gung ho about Ibuki being in SFIV. SFIV Ibuki wouldn’t be the same as 3S Ibuki so there’s really nothing for me to look forward to just as her being a playable character. They might as well give her a different name or say it’s her cousin or something.
I knew it! I knew someone would come with a reply like that! Viper is high tier on my list cause she rapes! but Cammy>Viper. Damn shatter dreams!:arazz: lol! jk!:lol:
Yeah you guys suck cuz you didn’t bring up Viper before. Nobody cares about Viper. :lol:
I care!:bgrin:
I knew something like this was gonna happen when I noticed 3 things from early videos:
- Unsafe Cannon Drill
- Slow Hooligan Combination
- Short range normals (at least they seemed that way to me, or maybe its just their priority?)
Call me crazy, but ST Cammy is my favorite incarnation so far, she just feels…right.
I’ve been using Cammy ever since street fighter 2 as well, and to win consistently with her in this game is a bit of an uphill battle. She is mostly about mind games now, which is fine by me but takes a bit more work in game. Don’t give up with her though, I know how you feel though. Somedays I come away thinking she’s the best character in the game and there’s others days where I want never pick her again. Just pick an alternate and you’ll be fine.
yea, i feel the cammy pain. i havent rly played any sf beside 4 and alpha on gba, but i feel she got the shaft hardcore.
i cant say that im rly that good, i still havent gone online to play since i cant get online at my school, but i find many things i dont like.
i love how fast she is, thats wat rly attracted me to her but,
cannon drill(the one foward jump qcb + k, in case i got name wrong lol) doesn t have priority over a freaking shoryuken??? wtf? i askd my roomate abt the logic behind which should have more power, a bullet falling from the sky, or a guy jumping off the ground and he aggres that cannon drill should have priority.
and her ultra and super, again im not that good of a player so im still learning abt stuff but, i cant even remember how mayn times ive done them and they either get blocked or the other char bounces off and i miss them sept for one hit. i even have done it before after a crossup, or after akuma does his ultra or super and as he has his back to me still i start hitting him, and somehow he still manages to block? wtf?? how can u block with ur back turned? and on top of that, it looks as tho it would hit low, i mean ur like kicking their shins, but they can block it high??
o well, im learning to play others and keep her as an alt. maybe some of my problems are just noob mistakes, but i think they are still valid, at least for the lower lvl ppl like myself maybe.
maybe she will get a fix and get some more dmg with her atks, get cannon drill to get an overhaul. basically just get some love period from capcom
First of all, if DK had priority over Shoryuken, Cammy would undoubtedly be the most powerful character… all she would have to do is spam that everywhere, especially with TK DK.
Second of all, you’re using her ultra wrong… I’ve never had problems with it (except for stupid SRK input).
lol, ok, i guess its just my noobness then, i guess il just have to work on it, i guess it will just take some more time paying and more experience.
and yea, i guess having cannon drill have prioity may make it a bit unbalanced now that u meantion it, but physically it dont make much since lol, but hey its a game so w/e.
i think CStrike hit trade with normal SRK except EX version and EX CStrike hit trade with that, so still sucks for Cammy though
but SRK is supposed to be one of the best move, just look at this forum name
I can say after playing against top and smart players(not some random scrubs u meet sometimes in ranking) with most of the cast , Cammy will probaly end up one of the best chars in sf4 if you use her sf4 tools right.I know James Chen knows alot about fighting games and his concern is legitimate ,but not to the point of thinking “well he loses 400 bp playing online with her ,it means the character is garbage” particularly after saying “she has no good attack” blaming it on her… we are talking about Cammy in sf4 , not in ST.He’s totally wrong i stated some of the reasons in my previous post .If Cammy was able to land random specials ala Dictator , with totally safe canon spike , totally safe drill , hooligan catching anything , i wouldnt even bother playing her ,instead she has other advantages over most of the cast.Consider her as a versatile char u can play aggresively (against dictator , sim ,abel etc…) defensively (gief , blanka etc…) and as a countering char against shotos.
Srk loses to canon spike :arazz:
the first one will lose to the later one I think… so a whiffed SRK can be CSpike-ed and vice versa ?
Actually I disagree, if someone jumped up, and was starting to come down on you, I’m pretty sure you’d have more power jumping up towards them, then they’d have falling towards you… though I suppose it depends on height, weight, etc, etc.
here’s how i view cammy…
she’s not a tourney winner. you’re not gonna consistantly beat someone that’s good with a top tier. however, she’s amazingly fun if you love playing with instinct. i been trying out a trying a new style and i find it as the only real way i can win against better players…but with that style i’m taking a lot of risks. and those risks involve whether or not my opponent has been pre-game conditioned to certain patterns. and depending on that condition, i have a better chance at winning or losing.
i went into a tourney with a mindset of a style where i try to condition my opponent and just adapt to their style during the match. that was a big mistake imo. i took way too much damage and always found myself at a HP disadvantage. it feels like to play cammy, i have to just “go fucking insane crazy mode” and just play off pure reckless instinct…
if it helps at all…i been using seth a lot and just getting my ass handed to me and when i switch back to cammy, she feels AMAZING. XD
regular canon spike has more invulnerability than regular shoryu if im not wrong
but ex dragon beats ex canon spike
I think srk and CS have the same invulnerability, it just depends who starts up second. If they go at the same time, I’m pretty sure they just trade hits… although all my experience of this comes from online play where it’s impossible to tell who put in what, when.