It was a result of him regressing to a more feral nature due to Genesis’s failed process of bonding Adamantium(Wolverine vol2, ish 100). He only got his nose back only months before Magneto threatened to destroy the world(AGAIN) by fucking with the planet’s poles.
I don’t miss the design one bit.
Man feral Wolverine was made of suck. He was all gimpy and shit. When he started walking upright again, I was happy.
So I saw X-Men: The Last Stand this afternoon. Personally, I thought the movie was pretty freaking sweet. Fraisher Beast was dope and I was loving the Wolvernie/Colasus throw move from the comics. Gotta respect that. Before seeing movie, I knew Phoenix would be in it, but I thought the 4th movie should have been all about Phoenix, the main story, the main threat, everything. However, I thought they worked here into the third X flick pretty well.
Now I don’t know much about Ghost Rider, but I’ve always thought the character was cool. Nicholas Cage is an awesome actor and I really want the GR movie to rock all kinds of hard. I see the previews and I get mixed feelings about it. Part of me things “Sweet!” The other part of me thinks “Man, this movie could really suck.” How do you guys think it will turn out?
Watched 5 eps of Max & Dave Fleisher’s 1941 Superman on DVD. Even back then, Lois had a knack for getting into trouble. 
And the intro is still classic:
Faster than a speeding bullet!
More powerful than a locomotive!
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!
Up in the sky-
It’s a bird!
It’s a plane!
It’s Superman!
:lovin:
Yes, the show is so freaking old but to me, these toons are still enjoyable. :wgrin:
Just finished reading Nightwing#128 it was fire, what a way 2 end the 4 part arc of Targets, now for Bride and Groom
The Bulleteers episode is top tier. Just because of the font used for the episode title. The animation is still excellent till this day. The inspiration for Batman TAS and Superman TAS. Superman TAS also took the intro music from there too. Only because it says ‘Superman’, which was also used for John Williams ‘Superman’ theme. The point of the intros is to say ‘Superman’. Different in melody and composition, but, the main point is the same. Damn, I can’t believe I still remember the commentary to a tee.
That was one of the eps I saw last night. Good stuff. I think it was in this ep that at the end, Clark and Lois walked away froma newstand arm & arm, which really surprised me because I thought back in those days, Lois couldn’t stand Clark. So when I saw this I was like “Whhhhhhhhaaaaaat?!” 
Of course in the ep, “Volcano” they it seems they forgot all about it since Lois kept Clark’s press pass, which prevented him fro getting onto a base so he could get a story with Lois.
The first ep I ever saw of the Fleisher Superman cartoons was called “The Magnetic Telescope”. In this ep, Supes was hitting commets with his freaking fists!! Plus he had electricity going through him to get the telecope functional again. Brought back so many memories when I saw it again. And you just gotta love when Clark says “This looks like a job for Superman” in each ep. That’s classic!
I didn’t know the Fleisher Superman cartoons was only 17 eps. That means I’ve got the entire series on DVD. I hear they put these cartoons on the special editions of the Christoper Reeves Superman movies. They’ve been remastered too. Though I don’t think I’ll be picking up the SE of SIII or The Quest For Peace. And I just gotta see The Richard Donner Cut of SII.
Yeah Wolvie went through that whole feral faze for a while because he rejected the adamantium bonding like others said. But he eventually got it back when Apocalypse gave it to him making him the Horseman of Death. A skrull took his place on the X-Men as bone claw Wolvie for a time and Wolvie as Death (masked of course) killed him. It’s one of the things I found really funny about Marvel vs. Capcom 2 when it had 2 Wolverines because that game came out just about when this storyline happened. I’m sure it’s 100% coincidence but it was hella funny.
Feral no nose Wolverine happened so fast I didn’t have time to form any kind of opinion on it. First I thought it was everyone copying Joe Mad who was never too big into drawing noses in the the first place until a friend pointed out he had no nose… a few issues of him being retrained by Elektra and he got the nose back, depending on the artist. He was no nose Wolvie during the wedding of Cyke and Jean too where he waited outside growling like a jealous fool…
Over the ages, I suppose his first limited series that introduced him to Japan, Weapon X and Wolverine & Kitty Pride are some of the must reads, these were all limited series but they are all of the things that lead up to him having his own series in a way. Wolvie & Kitty prolly isn’t as major but it’s a good follow up to his first limited series, and here is Kitty being his sidekick before Jubilee.
Some of the very early stuff in Wolverine my memory is very fuzzy so I can’t go into much detail… the standouts for me were when Larry Hama was writing the book. That was a lot of fun, his Jubilee tag team was in full swing. Also there was a great story on Savage Land that I dug, I think that was Hama’s exit.
And the time he had no adamantium was also a great time. Even when he lost it to Magneto is a hell of a good read, it’s how Onslaught got birthed (revealed later) and Capcom took pieces of it for the X-Men Mutant Apocalypse game NES side scroller, but in the game it was Cyke, Psylocke, Gambit, Beast, and Wolvie who used the space teleporters to get to the new Asteroid M and in the comic it was Prof. X, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Jean Grey and Wolverine who made the journey. And in the game Wolvie doesn’t lose his adamantium (but the game combined this Fatal Attraction story even tossing in Exodus with the Lee Claremont X-Men 1, 2 and 3 it was a bit of amalgam - another pointless excuse to talk about a Capcom game sorry…) Anyway bone Wolvie was fun because he was a lot weaker and not as crazy overpowered. Though they did over time boost up his healing factor to make up for the adamantium loss, but it’s still not as crazy strong as it is now. During this time it was possible for Wolverine to loose fights making the book more interesting to me - he had very clean losses to Lady Deathstrike and Sabretooth during this time. One of the greatest events was when the claws on one hand were snapped off and we saw the bone claws grow back via a twisty effect little by little, issue by issue. I’m suprised they kept him with bone claws as long as they did (about 2 years) because fans never stopped bitching for the adamantium to come back. Course we all know how any kind of big change in comics is eventually retconned and everything reverts back to the status quo because fans don’t ever stop bitching and god forbid if they just don’t go buy back issues that cost next to nothing nowadays of the time period they enjoyed but that’s prolly another conversation entirely…
Eric Larsen of Savage Dragon really had a great intergalactic story, written and drawn by him that I think I plugged everytime I talk about Wolvie… Brainwashed Wolvie took on a lot of heroes, an alien girl was training him for a big brawl. Trying to remember but I think there was a funny bit where Wolverine was clawing at Galactus’s foot while Galactus ignored him and continued to eat the planet he was working on.
Wolverine’s marriage to Viper - I was one of the few (only?) people that liked this idea but no one ever touched this story and they didn’t do anything with it. Viper showed up like two more times during the following year and they got a quicky divorce. They never even consumated the marriage. During this time Wolvie had an affair with a library lady in that War Angel Punisher Wolverine Pat Lee limited series story, so he can add adultery to his long list of sins too providing the exact time the story happened… I mean, if it happened when it was written - during the time Wolvie was married or before/after. Marvel Universe books do acknowledge that the War Angel Punisher stuff did occur, he just came back to life and said screw the angel route more or less… I always thought they were trying to make Punisher into Spawn when they attempted that… okay no one cares about my 616 continuity nerdiness so moving on…
I remember when Morrison first started his run on X-Men and I was reading Wolverine at the time, talking about how Wolvie is finally good after a bunch of crappy arcs! I remember it vividly because at the time I was hanging out with Morrison X-Men fans, Morry’s X-Men didn’t grow on me for a good while to tell you the truth. In Wolverine I dug Mr. X, T&A and everyone told me that it was awful and I had bad taste! But there was plenty of action at the time, and then the director of Weapon X came out, some poor guy that Wolvie jacked up so bad you never saw his face and that was fun. But since I’m the only one who enjoyed this time period that I know of, I’m really not sure you should listen to me on this one and chalk it up to a sanoism like my love of Maximum Carnage… can’t recall the creative team(s) at all. So maybe it’s not that good afterall 'cuz I don’t remember who worked on this stuff? Reminiscing is funny…
Most of the recent stuff I talked about in this thread or the other one. My quicky opinions - Hated the one year gangster arc, loved Rucka’s arc, hated Enemy of the State(good idea but too long and Larsen did the same thing MUCH BETTER - see above), I hate every single thing about House of M including the Wolverine issues, liked the few issues that tied into Wolverine Origins, loved Wolverine’s Civil War arc and now it’s Loeb doing the Wolvie/Sabretooth relationship ordeal that’s up in the air… Wolverine Origins is cool.
Oh yeah, I loved Wolverine Origin even though I feel Wolverine should be even older than he was in the book. I’m really fuzzy on details here but once in X-Men a demon who hasn’t been spotted in Earth for 500 years or so remembered Wolverine. But I think it’s one of those forgotten things that will never resurface (like Fabian Cortez knowing Wolverine from the past, don’t think that was answered either) and if I can’t recall exact details then that’s the end of that I suppose… (for all I know I dreamed it all up… more continuity nerdiness…) I still enjoyed the book and don’t share Lint’s hatred of it course, some maybe forgotten fact that I might of halucinated can’t do much to effect my love of Origin, really liked the ambiguity of it all.
I didn’t care for Wolverine The End much. Really, the only The End book that is even worth reading is Hulk The End… if you see X-Men The End please run in the opposite direction…
Okay I’m all talked out…
Punisher: The End was also really good. But just to be straight, I did read your entire post, sano- I didn’t just skip to the last paragraph. (I don’t want you to feel like your efforts were in vain or anything.)
We bash on Origin a lot here because there are a lot of posters who are Canadian, and from what I know about Canada, they don’t like the English. Paul Jenkins, the author, nay, AUTEUR of Origin happens to be English. Is “auteur” French enough for you Canadians? If that’s not French, I don’t apologize; I’m an American and I don’t feel the need to learn more about other languages or cultures.
Also, Origin is based on Wuthering Heights- classic English literature at its finest. A lot of Canadians can’t stand that Wolverine is really Heathcliff. And Rose is really Catherine. And Dog is really Hindley, or whatever that other dude’s name is. Origin simply goes to show that classic literature truly is timeless, and a classic novel can successfully be adapted into the modern superhero genre. It’s possibly the most clever idea that the comics medium has ever experienced since Charles Schulz’ parents conceived him.
Larry Hama’s Wolverine run was mighty enjoyable. That was stuff that I was reading all the time when I was a kid, and I have Essential Wolverine volume 2, which collects a big chunk of his run. It’s not the greatest thing ever, but it’s very entertaining. Volume 2 is the one that has a lot of stuff about Wolvie delving into his past- fighting Shiva (the machine, not the Lady, and not the deity), flashbacks about his Team X days, subsequent team-ups with old Team X players like Wraith and MAVERICK (remember when that guy was popular enough to warrant his own solo???), and Silver Fox.
Ah, Silver Fox. That really was an entertaining storyline. I don’t remember what’s in the other Essential Wolverine books, but volume 2 is great. Plus, Marc Silvestri’s black and white art actually looks very bold, as does Mark Texeira’s. There’s also some Spiral action, Yukio action, Mariko action, and Mystique action. Heathcliff bangs Mystique and Jubilee watches through a window- pretty funny stuff. I don’t think he bangs Spiral, though- now that’s something I’ve always fantasized about… A woman with six arms…
And from now on, anyone who still likes Maximum Carnage will be called a sano-masochist. I think it’s only fitting that we immortalize the man with the most longboxes. I can think of nary a finer tribute.
Didn’t read Punisher The End. I’ll make a mental note to track it down…
I did read your entire post and not just the first sentence so you don’t feel your efforts were waisted either.
Go go Maximum Carnage! 
So I finished reading the latest Teen Titans. Very good shit. And Tony Daniel’s art was very good. He’s becoming one of my favorite artists. And I’m still lol’ing at Kid Crusade. Now, I’m not a Teen Titan’s wiz or anything, but fuck, was that cheesy. Kid Crusade sounds like something that would come from my demented mind.
Oh, and Cassandra going rogue and joining Deathstroke is top tier. Thurst will not like this, but fuck him. =p
Batman and the Mad Monk #6. Damn. That was hella good. Definitely one of the best Batman stories I’ve read. I can safely agree with P.Gorath that Matt Wagner is your comic book god. ahem
And as for the latest 52. Lex is the man. Oh, and there’s a spelling error in the last line of the final caption box in the Mr. Terrific origin. They mispelled ‘balance’. They left out the ‘c’.
Oh, and read Daredevil. That book is fiyah!
Fuck That Thit…I don’t like how they are treating Cassandra.
And a “FTS” to work. Tony Daniel was at a comic book shop here last Wed afternoon signing TT #34, but I couldn’t go because of work. It was too far to warrant a lunch break.
Your avatar…OMG…Too good. Carl Weathers approves.
I just re-read Punisher: The End along with The Cell and The Tyger (get the hardcover!). The Tyger is probably my favorite of the three, with The End a close second
Was Morrison’s Assault on Weapons Plus retconned out of existence like everything else in his run? I thought the new take on weapon X was one of the best parts
It’s still part of the storyline as they still mention it in Wolverine’s Marvel Universe bio. No one really references the Weapon Plus / Weapon Ten stuff nowadays though, but they haven’t contradicted any of it either really. Mostly all of the new revelations about Wolverine’s past deal with his involvement with the US Government and a little bit more on Japan really, with a little Silver Fox tossed in. Maybe during the Sabretooth/Wolvie relationship ordeal the Weapon Ten/X/Plus stuff will come up again.
Was his entire run ret-conned? When did they do that?
anyone doing the midnight dark tower thing tonight?
Right after it ended, starting with lame whedon
The big change from Morrison’s run was they said that Magneto who got decapitated by Wolverine was… a Xorn / imposter (there are many of them according to Bendis making matters even worse in Avengers) and not Magneto. Yeah they made Xorn a real person/persons instead of just someone Magneto was posing as.
Bru’s Uncanny and Mike Carey’s X-men are going to be collected in oversized HC format fyi
Weapons Plus was sick, Morrison making Cap a member of the Weapons program just made so much damn sense.
The secondary mutations was great too.
Only thing bad about his run was the gay leather everyone wore because of the movie and the way quietly draws those giant maggot lips.
Read only a few comics so far this week.
Detective Comics - Another detective story! After the last 2 issues I was worried these would stop. Dini is the man.
Nightwing - Cool story, a day in the life of Nightwing. Bruce Wayne even appears in the book showing off their great father / son relationship, it even reminded me of how me and my father get along. Good read! Don’t care for the way the new artist draws faces, everything else he draws is fine though.
Avengers - New team is weird… Doc Strange is too silly. He could of stopped the battle against the Hand with but a thought. For crying out loud it’s the Hand, they get their asses kicked all of the time. Villains better go way up in power for this team to be believable… Spidey in black is cool but he’s acting just like Spidey, not really going dark like Marvel was hinting at, just a costume change and that’s it. Man if ever there was a team that needed an origin story it’s this one, having them show up out of the blue to save the day is too bizarre.
Friendly Spider-Man - Another cool issue. Spidey’s new outfit hasn’t changed the character of Spidey here either. But because Civil War lateness delays everything we get a few hints of what went down with Spidey after Civil War. Spoiler time -
Friendly
Spoiler
Doesn’t seem like either Mary Jane or Aunt May were killed after the guy had a rifle trained on them Amazing Spider-Man. But whatever happened he is not with them and is by himself. Flash realized that his ‘Ben Reily’ disguise was him and let him crash on his couch. Oh and it seems that the alternate reality Ben story has been resolved with that Ben dying, hooray! Between that, the Black Suit and Sandman in the book who’s daddy may have killed alti-u Uncle Benny, seems like they are already silently plugging the Spidey 3movie lol!