WTF Ronin? What thread are you reading? the argument isn’t and was never about Bible contradictions, it’s on the **subject of Religion being the main cause of violence, that’s the debate. **Does religion teach violence, or is it a cultural issue in reality? Fishjiz comes in reply with a bunch of copy pasted “evil things in the bible”, and that’s what birthed this argument. I’m not even going to touch that “bible contradictions” part, you can use google and get some random theology sites on that.
Yeah, go ahead, temp or even perm ban me, i don’t give a shit. In the end, it shows that you don’t actually care about what i’m doing because you’re dissing me and giving me them e-threat bans with out any knowledge of what the hell is being talked about. So what actual reason do you have to ban me other than you just don’t like me? Hahaha.
If you didn’t give a shit, u wouldn’t have been mashing F5 and yelling at everybody in this thread. If you don’t give a shit, just go then. Dont post about it, we really don’t care that much. Just go. Door’s that way ------->
People change their mind, I was christian back in the day, till I was about 12. But after reading that book over and over, I decided it was pretty damn crazy.
I was raised in a Catholic household and went all the way through confirmation. At some point, I realized that I didn’t believe any of it and possibly never did. Looking back, I do remember being a small kid and feeling so guilty about myself that I made a private blood oath that I would strive to be a better person. Literally, I wrote it on a piece of paper, pricked my finger, and signed it with a spot of blood.
The thing is, I was never a bad kid. I had no real reason to feel that guilty about anything. Part of the Catholic belief system is that you’re born a sinner–that you are bad purely by being alive, and that you must struggle toward redemption. If you’re told that often enough, you start to feel pretty bad about yourself, even if you understand at the intellectual level that all the metaphysical stuff makes absolutely no sense. It’s a weird version of Pascal’s Wager–there’s no logical reason to believe in supernatural consequences, but the survivalist chimpanzee part of your brain soaks up the message nevertheless.
My parents stopped making me go to church when I was in high school, after years of arguing with them over it. It was nothing but an improvement to my life.
While I obviously can’t know your story (or those of anybody else), it has been my experience that apostasy and doubt tend to go hand in hand with thinking that what Christianity demands is too strict or simply something that the person in question has no interest in doing, and that this aspect is frequently denied as a causal effect. Very rarely, in my opinion, is the only thing that sways a person one way or the other logical argument.
Put simply, if people thought believing that Osama bin Laden was dead required you (in some convoluted way) to give up drinking, sell all your possessions to the poor, and hold off of sex until marriage, some of the circumstances surrounding this story would have been subject to far more scrutiny. (In an attempt to stick to the original thread topic)
I respectfully disagree with your assertion. There are many people of all faiths who do not follow the tenets of their faith, yet they still believe in it. For example, its pretty safe to say that nobody holds off sex until marriage, except a very small percentage of devout believers. I’m talking like 0.1% of the religious population. If people find it difficult to follow a certain tenet, they simply don’t follow it. Abandoning a rule is much easier than abandoning a religion entirely. There are many reasons why someone would abandon a religion, but from my own experience, and the experience of other ex-christians, strict rules is not one of them.
Cisco: My point was, that there are atheists who were either once christians, or who have studied up on a lot of world religions. In every post you make the blanket assumption that every atheist you talk to has no clue or understanding christianity, which is simply not true. In fact, most christians I know have not even read the bible in its entirety, whereas I can find many atheists who have, myself included.
PS - if you want to respond Cisco you can PM me, and we can continue the troll fest in private.
Strictness has nothing to do with it. I was Episcopalian so there were no issues with sex, drinking, or what have you. It was more kinda a Sunday country club type thing.
The Abrahamic religions are all a bunch of bullshit. After reading Greek and Norse mythology, which was their religion, and realizing that Abrahamic religions were just as crazy and full of just as much utter bullshit I blew the entire thing off.
Back on subject, this is what worries me now. We can’t even control our borders for the past 10 years. During these past 10 years there has not been an attack on the US since then. Who knows what could of been sneaked into this country? We was people around the borders pushing crazy weight all the time. Does our national security suck?
(I think I’m secure enough to say that I am so hot for you right now, RoninChaos.)
Well, at least there’s a positive aspect to this nadir of human intelligence staying open: It seems like it’s trying to suck all the dumbest posters around here before it gets sealed up, crated and shipped to Area 51 like the The Lost Ark of face-melting stupidity that it is. I can deal with that amount of sacrifice.
And this is why you would be an awesome terrorist. [/comment flagged]
More seriously, I just wanted to quote this because it’s a hilarious, summary example of how stupidity is at once both the greatest cause of and deterrent to belief in the validity of (most) conspiracies.
Terminators wrapped in that skin of Arabic men wrapped in the skin of Mexican men that were made in China.
Judgment Day was pushed back to May 21st because Skynet made the mistake of downloading Windows 7 and then Firefox 4.0. Artificial intelligence my ass…
We can’t control our borders, or airlines, or shipping, simply because we are not willing to do what it takes because we find it abhorrent. We aren’t willing to crack down and become a police state, and we aren’t willing to profile the crap out of people. We’ve decided that it’s not worth it.
Our national security is based around the premise that if you fuck with us, we will fucking body the crap out of you, and then fuck your economy up for the next twenty years or more. And for the most part, against state actors, it works. Since WW2 the only conflicts we’ve been in have been ones we jumped into for whatever reason.
This does nothing to individuals and rogue actors who really don’t have a damn if we level some country, it’s not their issue.
Oh, I don’t know why but the “see you in about 6 months”, part cracked me up. I just started imagining someone saying “I got my turkey dinner, I got the game on, it’s Thanksgiving…OH SHIT I KNOW, I can start posting on srk again!”.
I think you call that the sign of the times. Issues such as Pre-marital sex, etc may not have been fully condemned in the bible; however the question is to some christians is, is it really forbidden by our God or was it just a form of advice? If the christian God is a god who wants his creation to have their own minds and live to learn through experiences, then issues about pre-marital sex where more like advices than forbidding. Pre-martial sex can both be good and also dangerous. One of the main reasons why i believe pre-martial sex can be wrong is because a thing called “ties” can come from it. People go into depression or emotional meltdowns because the emotional attachment - the TIES- they have. Therefore some guys would go on stalking their ex or trying to have communication to revive their past image. That person needs to let go, and that person probably knows but can’t. It’s much more easier to move on and let go of an ex if there was no sexual experiences with them. I have known allot of people who really got messed up for years due to that “long lost loved one”, some went as far as to commuting suicide. That’s the reason why most bible theologists believe that Pre-marital sex isn’t supported in the bible, it was never said to be immoral it’s just advisable to be wise on that decision.
The topic concerning God in the OT
This about the who “genocide in the bible” debate: In the story of Jonah, god made it clear that he has no joy in going as the role of the executioner no matter of how guilty the person is, but he has to do what he has to do. First things you need to do to understand God’s reason for commanding Soul to perform the eradication of the Amorites is by researching on early BC tribes that worshiped a god called Ba’al. That is the idol the Amorites and the majority of Nomads worshiped. One of the rituals for Ba’al involved the slaughter of children. Since these Amorites have committed crimes like that for centuries! They where given a shot for peace and free forgiveness, but they never changed. So finally, God did what had to be done and what sadly deserved.
imma just say this every time im depressed about an ex…its neverrr bout the sex part. its about the emotions in the other areas of the relationship. at least for me.
Passively, it is though. Your body and your mind actually craves for the physical contact again, this is the reason why people get this anxiety when we see an ex with a different person. It’s not actually the fact that she’s loving another guy that gets you emotional, because love with out sex is just being best friends. hehe