Orlando Thread: We Want More Dive Kicks!

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I’ve been thinking a lot about this, and I figure I should give my input.

Honestly Jebailey, I care about the Orlando community getting better at Super. At the same time, I’d like it if the Orlando community could be more versatile by way of playing a few different games, considering that for a long time Super was the only game anyone cared to play somewhat seriously. Clearly these two desires clash, but I think both sides of the coin deserve some consideration.

You, Leland, and Chris are the three remaining consistent Super players in Orlando because the three of you have lots of experience, natural talent, and pure dedication to the game. But of the three of you (at least until very recently), Leland was the only person who would semi-consistently come out to get-togethers within the community, and only if he wasn’t working or busy otherwise. I’m legitimately happy to hear that Torrin is resuming hosting ranbats, because frankly this community as a competitive community is on the verge of failing. Not to say that we have bad players (because we don’t), but we don’t create nearly enough opportunities for ourselves to learn from each other and continue to make real efforts of improvement (at least not in my opinion). My internet connection for playing Super online is total garbage, so my only time for experience comes from playing local people. Which is great, but it massively dilutes the amount of variety required for anyone to truly improve. At some point in time, you have to learn how to play against and learn from different people who have different skills.

Not intending to sound salty, and correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think the Super community in Orlando is well-fostered anymore. Ever since CEO I feel like I’ve actually been declining as a player, and while many (even myself) would be tempted to say that’s just a product of my own mind, I believe it to be true from a purely objective standpoint. I’ve barely learned anything new, and I’m sure the same could be said for a lot of players here. Meanwhile Tampa’s players seem to be improving every time I watch them play, and it’s probably because they have a better sense of community and organization.

Jebailey, I’m not going to say you haven’t been trying to promote a better Super community here in Orlando, because I would be an idiot if I said that. But if you really want to keep Tampa from handing us our asses (a point with which I agree), then somehow the community needs to be inspired to want to do just that. We need encouragement. We need support. For all I know maybe we need two or three people in the Orlando community to get everybody together and be professors for a class on how to not suck at SSF4.

I really want to get better at Super, somehow. And I know for a fact there’s a lot holding me back. But I think at least in some way, the whole Orlando community is being held back. And I, for one, would like to find some way to fix it.

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Well said sir.

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All it takes is focus, no pun intended. Proper learning of a fighting game is like math class, cram school etc…and most of the time When we meet up it’s recess. While it’s fun you don’t learn the proper way. truthfully I think Tampa is winning because… well first they care, second they have an actual team setup, just like in real sports, team setups build morale, ie: support acceptance and a great fast learning environment with the right guidance. Organization and funny enough T-shirts help too, aka more morale building elements. Tampa also wins the shock value award with organized hype building which can be very effective depending on the nerves of the person playing… Just my 3 cents to add to the pot…

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Anyone going to the Tourney in Waterford on Sunday 22nd?

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I play Super exclusively, but it’s not like my presence there would’ve made a big difference. shrug

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What i don’t understand is how is the “downgrade” in Orlando’s Super performance due to the fact that we have started to play “multiple games”. Cause at every gathering I’ve been to SF4 has been there. People still play it. People still practice it. The losses to Tampa are being taken too seriously I think. Saying that Orlando sucks cause we play other things is just an excuse I think. Hopefully i don’t make anyone mad by saying that. There are plenty of players who play multiple games and are still good. As a matter of fact almost every player I played against in Austin played multiple games, but hey are these players any good? Well Hsien Chang who is from Austin is a SF4 and BB player. He gets top 8 in almost every tournament he is in. Went to SBO too i think. There are others too of course Jan, poser wolf, etc etc. Players who play different games don’t suck. IMO. There shouldn’t be any fear from playing multiple games. The diversity is a good thing that will help to foster the community.

Have confidence!

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speak for your fucking self. They are NOT the only 3 remaining super players in orlando. Jesus fuck I miss TWO LEGIT TOURNAMENTS(not even in a row lol) and 2 random ass con tourneys and all the sudden i don’t play the game consistently anymore? GTFO…

John your problem is really really really simple. You play a character for 2 weeks, you then lose a tourney match with said character and then switch to a new one. You CAN’T win tourneys that way. If you want to be good pick a character and learn EVERYTHING about them not just combos. Combine this, with something we talked about numerous times, with the fact that if you lose a round you start beating yourself because you aren’t confident in your character(not your abilities) and you got a recipe for un-success…

I find it funny that the two people who are claiming our scene is dead/dieing are the two people who never come out to gatherings…(yes i know you run tourneys jebailey and we EXTREMELY ARE grateful for what you do at these events, but the scene goes beyond that. I realize you have done a GREAT deal for the community during vanilla, but ever since you went to lebanon and you stopped playing wiht us you have this weird view that everyone else stopped playing too apparentely)

I shifted my saturday host sessions to BB focus(we still play super lol…) to help foster a new scene for a game that i enjoy. That in no way means I’ve stopped playing super at all. To make a claim when you aren’t even present for, well any, of the hosted sessions is just false information.

umm…

ok… lol, i know you will support us in any way possible, i just don’t appreciate what i’m trying to do here being called a fad. Hits ye ole ego ya know. The main reason there have been no orlando tourneys for the game is quite simply no one is at a tourney level yet(outside of John, Tsak, and Ben’s bro jeff(only cuz he plays that asshole bang!!!)). The game is less than a month old…it’s not like switching from vanilla to super ya know…

Brian… go back to tampa…mumblestupid el fuertemumble

As it stands the people that are, in my opinion ACTIVE outside of tourneys practicing with eachother(no homo) are -
Myself
Ben
Torrin
(randomly Trent)
Rico(stop playing makoto in super ass hole you arent helping anyone!!!)
Nestor
Carlos
Lord.

I NEVER see anyone else, other than the people listed, at any gatherings on any consistency. Do we play BB, sometimes, did we stop playing SSFIV, fuck no…

TL:DR version
In short if you don’t feel we are at the level that you are on or where we should be, then stop condeming us for playing another game and help us get there. You act as if we enjoy losing in tourney matches or something. Believe it or not(well at least for myself anyways) I fucking HATE losing to players from outside my own city so please don’t confuse the last month of me doing other things than going to cons or going to monthly tourneys(of which i’ve never missed before mind you…and had good reasons as why i did not attend) as complacency …

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I’ve been looking at a secondary. I’ve been messing around with Ibuki. She looks fun. Also Abel and Akuma. Not sure who it is going to be though. Still messing around. I’ll try my best to get better. I promise.

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Did I not just mention on one or two occasions in my post that I acknowledge I have flaws in my plan? I’m fully aware I haven’t been thinking straight; I don’t need you to tell me that. We’ve had this discussion multiple times, I get the point. Part of the reason I’m trying to not touch the game for a little while is so I can take some time to just think and make fewer on-the-fly decisions.

If it weren’t for the fact I’ve had plenty of other things going on lately, I would have come out to more gatherings. Not once did I insult a single player’s capability in this game. If you want to believe that what I say is unfounded and untrue, then go right ahead. But I have a gut feeling that I’m not far from the truth, and between Tampa’s recent rapid growth of skill in the game and the fact that we’re already divided arguing about the issue… well.

I’m actually trying to not be a little bitch and provide some kind of constructive insight. I’m as happy about building a community for a new game as anyone, personally, but as far as Super goes I admit it’s more of a bad vibe than solid proof. Regardless, the least you could do is not kick everything I say to the curb every time I try to address something that I feel is a concern. If anything, shit like this is proof that we do in fact have a problem.

I’m not going to talk about this anymore. I’ve said my piece, take it or leave it. We’ll let time and course of action dictate what happens from here.

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Attention Orlando It’s Your Always Humble and Gracious Champion
I just want to say what’s up to all my Orlando friends and I come to start no trouble. I believe a lot of you guys are correct about being able to play multiple games at a high level. I myself your humble and gracious Champ can actually Drink Competitively at a high level and Win Orlando Tournaments at the same time so anything is possible. I just want to keep hope in this Orlando community that I represent as Champion. Ty

                                                                                   Always Gracious Orlando SSF4 Champ,
                                                                                                               BronxPuertoRock
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Speaking about other games

http://shoryuken.com/f2/official-darkstalkers-4-signature-thread-247050/index50.html

If you haven’t done so already please do.

Lol.

Glad you said at this. Trust me there is noting to worry about.

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The combo breaker is appreciated, Prince. Seriously.

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Not trying hard enough.

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Only reason I didn’t go to Tampa was not because I don’t care about Super anymore, but because I really was dead broke that week. No point wasting gas money just to spectate.

I’ll admit I’ve kind of avoided Super at casuals lately, but that’s mostly because I wanted to re-learn BlazBlue for CS and do what I could to help people get a taste for the game before the first tourneys start. It was both a necessity and a nice change of pace for me after once again blowing myself out at Hooters (where I composed myself well but still made some critical mistakes against Sean’s Blanka, and then went up against Ken and died slowly because I didn’t know the matchup).

Now that the game’s a couple weeks old (a little older for the elite few who bellied up to the Type-X2 loader), I think the people who want to play have a pretty clear idea of what’s new and what the game’s about and are pretty much ready for the first few tourneys, so I guess I’ll make more time for Super.

I’m not gonna lie, though, I feel kinda burned out on Super. Spending a few weeks throwing myself at BlazBlue was ultimately very refreshing, despite my initial bitching at having to re-learn the game. Going back to Super will be very much a “back to the grind” kinda deal for me, especially if I continue to get fucking shot by any character Torrin picks who’s not Ibuki. (And then there’s Leland’s Honda to deal with…and god forbid Trent shows up…ugh…)

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Bahhhhh, Drunk awake msg: Get pussy wingzz and money!!! SF4 will foloww in suite also wtf happneed to Orlando, niggaz sounding bitch made right now, grab ya sack, if not im repping Melbourne till I move back, start a scene out Yeaaaa!!

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@John, my apologies i misunderstood the tone of your post. /graciousBow

Orlando be right let us stop the bitching and commence the winning.

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Why explain the game, you guys don’t listen. Orlando scene is full of button mashing and wake-up ultras.

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lol?

meh you may be a professional drinker but it’s on the same level as a 3rd string center. you may be pro but you still suck at it lol…

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…so we gathering wednesday???

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Very true statement, numero uno posted it not to oust him self, but to own up to his mishaps. I’m proud of you torrin, one step at a time… : ) lmfao

All jokes aside though statements like that is why the Orlando scene is where it is right now. “Why explain the game” so that one gets better, you said it yourself that you always listen because you can learn something even from someone that technically isn’t better then you. I feel where you are coming from though, sometimes knowledge falls on deaf ears, and I hate teaching if there just gonna act salty about it. But it’s up to you a so called better player to try and instill that shit into there brain, at least once or twice if they take it they take it I guess. And who does wake up ultras in tourneys and lands them on a serious note besides Jebailey?