Just playing devil’s advocate here…but to be diagnosed with bipolar you need at least one manic episode.
People in manic episodes are capable of all kinds risk defying behaviors. Mania is essentially the opposite of depression, with an inflated sense of self, ability, and high energy. Manic people are impulsive and often extremely irrational. Being a threat to self or others (the criteria for being placed in a secure psychiatric facility) is pretty common with mania.
Bipolar is even capable of having the specifier “with psychotic features”. Psychotic features represent a distorted view of reality that can be either hallucinations (ex: hearing voices, the most common hallucination) or delusions (irrational beliefs, like the gays are in league with the devil and I am a chosen agent of God).
Now I don’t know the details of this man’s diagnosis, but bipolar could most certainly produce violent acts, especially if he was in a manic episode and suffering from psychosis.
Bipolar is a chemical imbalance and requires medication for treatment. One of the most common ways for bipolar people to mess up is to not take their meds and fall into mania or depression where they become a threat to themselves or others.
Being violent isn’t part of the diagnostic criteria for bipolar, but bipolar could most definitely produce violence against the self or others. Just take a quick look at any inpatient psychiatric facility and you’re likely to find quite a few bipolar cases.
You’re missing the point. The guy’s point is that the incident was an attack on gay people, a hate crime, but that aspect is glossed over by the media, dehumanizing the LGBT community and ignoring the blatant institutionalized homophobia. It IS a blatant attack against the gay community, just like an attack against a black church or a synagogue.
It was a homophobic act that was validated by the Radical Islam movement. Gun laws aren’t the issue here; finding and catching/preventing lone wolves is what we need to do.
he was already criminally suspect years prior to this, even affiliated with an american bomber. im wondering how he obtained the gun and or was able to carry out this tragedy
Gun laws and religion bashing on this issue is out of context. Yes this can be seen as Homophobia, but at the same time this can’t be seen as “oh look another bad religious act… if guns were band this would not of happened”. The killer was an Isis fan, of course he would of found other ways to kill. The whole pointing fingers/demonizing religion also has to stop. With over a Billion muslims and christians here in the world (for hundreds of years) if they really are a religion that is violent towards anything opposite from them then we all would have been fucked a long time ago.
How the hell can mankind still be alive if more than 10% of these religious groups had these actual ideals?
The Isis is it’s own group. We’ve seen them horribly murder innocent people who are Christian, Muslim, or Jew. How many images were out there of Isis members beheading 5 year old girls from Christian families? How many pics of crucified Christian teens were out there last year, how many Muslim populated areas got bombed with in the last 2 years?
The fact that some people here are making this a topic of “religion hate on homosexuals” just strikes me that most people just care about antagonizing religion more. The Isis doing this should not be seen as another anti-gay case in this world because they’ve done this to other innocent people. The topic that should be discussed is how we can eradicate the Isis for good. Even if it is hard or not. The Isis need to be killed, period.
(He seems to have obtained the guns pretty easily since he wasn’t on any list, which is part of the problem. We’re going to have to wait a while to find out how much the FBI fucked up here, even provided it doesn’t get drown out by empty “talking points”.)
While I agree that gun laws aren’t the main issue here, I think it is valid to ask this question: why are assault weapons still legal for purchase by civilians in this country? Yes, I acknowledge that this gunman could still have killed quite a few people with a lesser gun or even without a gun at all given Wasted mentioned bombs or, hell, just knives. I similarly acknowledge that even if all guns were banned, that would hardly stop murderous violence from occurring even if we act like a weapons used to kill are obtained legally, especially since law enforcement does need to enforce a lot of gun laws on the books already. Still, what good reason does a civilian or even an ex-military person have to actually own an assault weapon in one’s daily life? I’ve yet to hear one outside of the most broad interpretation(s) of the second amendment from people who generally act like any restriction to guns is automatically abolishing that…despite their already being some restrictions on firearms in this country.
Meh. That’s mostly a rhetorical question for various reasons, but I figured no further harm could be done by putting it out there.
Regardless, the fact that this thread has sunk so quickly and easily into sides that are just talking past each other like always is just an echo of what’s already happening on the national level with equal rapidity. That’s why you should save yourself while you still can, @StoneDrum; nothing good will come of this thread or of threads like this in general that pop up again and again, “tragedy” after “tragedy”, with no change ever occurring either on here or in real life. Run.
(doesn’t see you feeling here in terror as you should
Fly, you fool! [/Gandalf])
Yeah, it is pretty amusing that it reminds you of the episode that even in-universe is disliked the most, as mentioned in the episode where they saw the play about themselves. I supposed it’s appropriate though since politics is largely loathsome bullshit anyway.
Outside of these kinds of massacres, damn near nobody is injured by “assault weapons” in the United States. They are almost never used in firearm crime, let alone firearm deaths overall.
Handguns are and continue to be the preferred tool of suicides, gang murders and most other firearm death.
It is literally in the order of a one in a million chance of being killed by an “assault weapon” in the US.
Nobody needs handguns, yet nobody cries out the sheer volume of destruction they cause.
Not saying charities use money wisely or dont pinch from the coffers under the excuse of internal costs. But do Muslims even attempt to raise money for world problems like christianity does?
Also the concept of God having rules upsets people because people are generally self righteous. We tolerate our employers and schools codes of conduct because at the end of the school and or work day we can use our free time away from those jurisdictions to practice our desires and express ourselves to the understanding of what our selves really want or need to experience from life. God doesnt let us have “me time” because we are always on Gods watch. We cannot do X for God to receive Y for ourselves in a period of self expression and then expire that free self expression period and go back to earning more self expression time from God again by doing X for God again. If our jobs and schools expected conduct adherence while away from the school or workplace people would detest those institutions on the same level most detest the concept of God. The bottomline is that nobody wants to be told how to live their life not even to have freedom of full expression in privacy due to an unprovable being that detests even abhors certain behavior.
God being real or not is moot because those that do as they will and would value their own feelings above from their perspective only a remote possibility of God being real. And therefore the probability of that Gods punishment as only as likely as that Gods likely existence which to them is so remote as to be functionally void
Protection. Of course targeting assault guns won’t reduce mass shootings. It’d just reduce death count, which is good. What’s the downside to controlling assault weapons?
i thought today would be packed at work, but it was relatively slow. i think that may pick up as the week goes on though. a gay guy came in and hung out for a couple of hours talking to us about stuff. he was an older guy and he never thought about owning a gun before and he wanted more info. he didn’t end up with one, but i think he really came over just to see if we had his back.
LEFT / RIGHT narrative aside, fuck a gay club-
a deranged lone gunman, enthralled by a bunch of deranged people in another country, attacked AMERICANS for their way of life.
can we work from that angle?
nice try. Sarah Silverman has been saying she’s afraid of Islamic Fundamentalists for years. it’s why she refuses to write jokes about Islam. it’s in her self-interest to take up for them when these things happen to keep the heat off her so she can continue to do nude scenes in movies and TV shows that no one watches besides the clips where she’s naked.
sport, food, to protect against assault from ________
cannot participate in sport, cannot participate in acquiring your own food, cannot protect yourself and/or loved ones from assault.
aww… don’t be like that, baby…
the American populace would stomp its own military in a fight.
So you’re telling me guns hunters use have the same rate of fire? If that is the case, why not reclassify what an assault weapon is and or restrict hunters to weapons with low rate of fire? Cannot participate in acquiring your own food? Wtf? And you don’t need a weapon with a high rate of fire to protect yourself
Semi automatic rifles are used by both hunters and professional marksmen/population control yes. You might use a bolt action if you’re hunting much bigger game, but for things like deer or pig, intermediate calibres are popular. We used to do that here before Port Arthur.
And yes, many Americans hunt for their own meat and game. Fuck, even I know that.
