Yup its confirm Oni Akuma is my new main…
i’ve seen e.ryu do a lk.tatsu into lp srk fadc, but he missed the juggle so im not entirely sure, but my guess is that he probably can.
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In the first round, he stunned Oni with the following moves:
- Fireball
- Fireball
- Throw
- cr.MP, cr.MP xx LK Tatsu into Fierce Uppercut
- Throw
Akuma would have dealt about 825 stun with his current (SSF4) moveset. What do you think guys, it’s Oni who has low stun rating? Or will it be that E. Ryu, unlike Akuma, can actually stun people?
Edit: got ninja’d by EXC355UM 
Also: E. Ryu’s cr.MK links from a cr.MP. Early reports said it didn’t combo off his crouching jab, wonder about the startup and frame advantage behind these moves (cr.MP seems standard 4f startup).
some footage from arcade UFO, I have some more clips that I will upload soon
Here’s Hsien Chang (oni) vs Viet (evil ryu)
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I’m 99% sure that Evil Ryu has 850 health & 950 stun rate (it’s a shame he doesn’t get stunned so fast when playing against him), I was bored and tried to calculate those info from a youtube video, here’s how I calculated if you want to check whether it’s right or wrong:
E.Ryu stats
[details=Spoiler]Evil Ryu health/stun rate (850/950)
I’m pretty sure those numbers are correct, I calculated 'em from this video:
[media=youtube]bqJTEI6tSpg[/media] in the 2nd round that starts @ 00:56
Assuming normal Ryu’s damage and stun rate for the used normals aren’t changed in AE (which 99% they haven’t), here’s how I calculated the stun rate:
It begins at 1:06:
Combo 1: CH cr.mp, cr.mp, cr.hk= 305 stun
Combo 2: CH j.hk,cr.mp,cr.mp,cr.hk = 500 stun
j.mk = 100 stun
CH cr.lk= 63 stun
Total = 968 stun to dizzy Evil Ryu, which means he has 950 stun rate
As for health, it was trickier to figure out because unlike stun, it gets scaled depending on your opponent’s health, anyway here’s what happened in the 2nd round up to when E.Ryu got dizzied:
CH j.hp = 125 damage
Combo 1: cr.mp(ch), cr.mp, cr.hk= 207 damage
Combo 2: j.hk(ch),cr.mp,cr.mp,cr.hk = 291 damage (288 damage on 850 health character)
j.mk = 67 damage (63 damage on 850 health character)
CH cr.lk= 24 damage (23 damage on 850 health character)
Total = 714 - 706 damage scaled depending on the character’s health (1000-850)
Anyway, lets say it took around 710 damage to get Evil Ryu’s health to just outside the 2nd score circle under the health bar when he got dizzied (a screenshot: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5080/56449359.jpg), here are the results for doing a full Gief Ultra 1 + MP SPD (520 + scaled 190 SPD= 710 damage) on these characters that have different health ratings:
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As you can see, Evil Ryu’s health matches Akuma’s 850 health for taking the same amount of damage.[/details]
I submitted it to eventhubs if they wanna post it.
Great stuff metallica! Damn, 950 stun is cool…
Do you think Oni might have 850 stun? With my calculations above (140 for throw stun, 100 for cr.MP, 50 for LK Tatsu and 150 for Fierce DP) he got dizzied at 825 health. But if E. Ryu’s Fierce DP deals 200 stun just like Ryu’s, the stun total would go up to 865. That would also be the case if his SRK dealt 150 stun while his LK Tatsu 100.
Im not really feeling either one of them at this point.
Oni Akuma can do a Super Demon in the air and catch you with it if you jump…that’s fucking insane man…it’s a wrap Oni is gonna be top tier
air Demon reminds me of Cyber Akuma/Mech Gouki in MvSF.
Problem is we have no clue how powerful is E.Ryu stun wise, maybe he could be a stunning beast like Akuma was in Vanilla or even more (now that would be crazy lol). All of the matches so far are E.Ryu vs Oni, I’m hoping to see some good matches of Oni vs some of the old cost that wasn’t changed much in AE so we can be certain about his health/stun stats.
It’s been said that E.Ryu can tatsu > sweep?! I didn’t believe that would work because his sweep looks so slow to me, maybe it’s very character specific that works vs characters that fall very slowly (i.e Rog or Sim). His d+mk is reported to have more hit stun than Akuma’s as well, this gives E.Ryu a pretty legit mixup game vs characters that he can actually tatsu > sweep.
Also, I can’t wait to see a decent Akuma playing against those guys, I REALLY want to know whether they are tatsu sweepable or not and if they can dodge the 2nd kick of far roundhouse while crouching. I don’t like the fact that E.Ryu has similar tools to Akuma (even though IMO Akuma is a lot superior so far), but if there’s one thing I wish they’d give to E.Ryu is Akuma’s hitbox that can’t dodge the 2nd kick of fs.hk and can be tatsu > sweeped :P.
Guys, are we sure this Oni is Akuma? I thought that the Capcom developers had designed Gouki to be aligned with the Japanese God of Wind Fujin and his brother Gouken was supposedly aligned with the God of Lightning Raijin. Proof of this was delivered when their first Alt costumes were released. Further proof came in Super where Gouki’s U2 is a wind based attack (Demon Armaggedon starts with a whirlwind hurricane kick) while Gouken’s is based on lightning (Denjin Hadouken).
If anything, I believe that Oni is actually Gouken corrupted, not Gouki; his aura looks like lightning. His projectiles are lightning based. And his moveset has more in common with Gouken’s that Gouki’s.
Or, could this be a fusion of Gouki and Gouken’s powers? I’d like to know how Capcom will explain his background. Also interesting, Evil Ryu used to be a manifestation of the Satsui No Hadou powers laying dormant in Ryu (his murderous intent), but this Evil Ryu looks like he got taken over by the dark hadou because he was killed (gaping hole through his chest??)… Another interesting story awaits here too, I’m sure.
He has KKZ
/discussion
Just want to ask again on the off-chance someone might answer. It doesn’t look like it from what’s been seen, but are Oni’s palm-slashes hit-confirmable?
damn…people care way too much about storyline
why is everyone recording videos on their derp ass cell phones, get a camera for christs sake.
+1 lol, at least it’s better than nothing :P. It’d be great to see some direct feed of the new demons in action.
hell yeah!
I’m curious about this myself.
I saw a round in this video:
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First game, I haven’t stopped or looked again to confirm or count anything but: Evil Ryu basicly rushed him into the corner with combos, frame traps counter hits, strings and stuff and barely let up. KO’d Oni before he got to dizzy.
Actually, in the video where he landed it he was looking for a JR jump-at-them Demon (hoping they didn’t AA) and unexpectedly started it in the air; Evil Ryu did actually AA at this point and got grabbed out of his fierce uppercut.
Unless it can grab them from their grounded state, it could probably be considered a nerf more than anything since it’ll prevent you from doing any of that fake cross-up shit.
… and I hope you’re joking about top tier, lol.