Didn’t Robin already find a Poneglyph on Dressrosa?
Jimbei came across one in the cover story, and since he’s sailing to catch up to Luffy and crew…
Just because it’s not Kishimoto hitting you over the fucking head with the main plot, or Kubo who legitimately forgets things, only to remember them when he’s written himself in a corner, doesn’t mean the main plot of finding One Piece isn’t still the core of the story.
The poneglyphs and One Piece aren’t at all connected in the story so far
The point of going into the New World is to sail around all of Grand Line, to the end. Once there, they’re supposed to find Raftel, which is supposedly the location of One Piece. The New World IS the Grand Line… Just the second half.
The poneglyphs are a (so far) unconnected subplot dealing with the “lost century” or whatever, and a bunch of ancient weapons. Basically, ancient knowledge that the gubbinment is trying to keep buried. It’s Robin’s pet project, and the rest of the crew seemingly can’t be arsed to deal with it beyond randomly happening upon poneglyphs and going “oh hey there’s one of those rocks Robin wants, let’s show it to her”.
In a game, it’d be the secret ending-triggering sidequest which would sell FAQs in the old days because goddammit those rocks are so crazy-well hidden and you have to talk to the right people at the right time and aargh.
PS: Yep, Boundman Luffy looks dumbass, but that’s part of the charm. Oda knows it too, considering the amount of bystander comments about a weird rubber ball guy.
On the topic of Boundman, I wonder if this is actually the final stage of Gear Four or we’re going to get some sort of refined version down the line like we got with Gear Third. Kinda hard to imagine what it would be from a visual perspective, but I guess we could end up with different variations like some people have suggested already.
I agree with alot of the points made so far. As much as I love one piece, sometimes the pacing can be slow as fuck. Oda seems to be stretching it, and I dont know why the nigga has plenty of japanese $$$ already.
A good example would be the flash back of senor pink. I mean sure, it was interesting, and you felt a bit sad for him in the end, but was it necessary? do we actually give a shit about his back story? He could have just finished that fight in a few panels, but he had to go and spend an extra chapter on fleshing out pink. I mean, what was the point of it all?
Even in the latest chapter, I get that the citizens of dressrosa are running for thier lives, but why not just limit that to 1/2 pages, then get zoro/franky to do what they need to do. Did there have to be pages of Riku giving a long ass speech, then panels of granny running like Usain bolt?
I need all y’all complaining niggas to full stop, and go read an actually shitty manga like the last half of Naruto, or whatever the fuck Bleach is doing, so you can see how petty your complaints really are.
If anyone has every tried creating a coherent story and not just some spontaneous stream of awesome concepts would know that it’s hard as hell to focus your vision without creating unforeseen holes and plot threads. Oda has said he already knows the ending and what he wanted from the story from the beginning, but with all the dialogue and little interpersonal interactions, flashbacks, whilst making characters more 3-diminsional takes a lot of development, more development than one can initially comprehend. The reason why so many readers care about what happens to the crew (even getting teary-eyed over a “dying” ship!) and have their favorites is because Oda has encapsulated unique qualities within each character that provokes empathy. This is why he’s the hardest working mangaka out there, and took over 15 years to take a goddamn break. You think Oda wouldn’t still get paid if he just phoned it in at this point? He’s already expressed interest in doing other projects but clearly he’s analyzed the pace he’s been force to keep and realizes than finishing the series in 1000 chapters like he had hoped isn’t feasible without making major sacrifices to his vision.
So how does that happen? He has to create banter, side-interests, intrigue, not just shove the plot down your gullet and force you to digest it. As a result, he’s created a world that feels so large and vivid, it must be incredibly difficult to push the plot forward without showing the chain result of every major action. Now we have several nations, the World Govt., and the Yonkou all wrapped up into a huge conflict that surpasses what has occurred in other arcs. I wish I could fast forward the story too, but if it was a rushed piece of shit, then it wouldn’t be One Piece.
Kubo for example, you get the feeling that he likes drawing and designing, and that secretly he wanted to be a fashion designer for Calvin Klein rather than a mangaka. He probably gets really jazzed about new power creep concepts or bankai clothing and accoutrements he thought of while reading Cosmopolitan on the toilet, then lazily adds a plot to show his lavishly designed creations making snarky comments he heard from 80s action movies with white and black backgrounds in order finish the chapter quickly and get to next design idea. When he encounters a plot hole, he retcons the plot by adding previously unrelated elements together and making his readers believe this was always his plan, rather than creating a sensible story arc.
yunno, I’m gonna haveta disagree that the monuments and One Piece are unrelated. it may just be an assumption but I believe there’s a connection there. Probably because we don’t know what One Piece is. As far as I know its never been stated that one piece is like a treasure stash or anything. maybe it is but its never been established that its just gold and jewels.
I dunno, in my crazy mind I believe its something else. something magical like …dragonballs(genie lamp) or maybe a time machine or something like that that can alter reality or timelines. that’s why I think the monuments and the op are interconnected somehow. I don’t think that…the monuments are just sidequest fodder.
but that’s just me.
tbh, I sorta imagine one piece as a ‘make a wish and it’ll come true’ type treasure that will allow Luffy to wish back Ace and also allow the rest of his crew to also wish back dead loved ones or something or other. maybe that’s why Gold Roger had a smile on his face when he was executed. cuz he got everything he wanted in life thanks to one piece.
again…just my assumption.
are you kidding? all you do is complain in the DMC and VGG threads.
you must be.
nah, Kubo has stretched it out thin too…but at least he’s wrapping it up and not talking about adding 10 more years like a prison sentence.
and yeah, its true that after derailing the main story so many times its impossible for Oda to wrap this up in a few years without it being rushed…which would suck. but who’s fault is that? if he knew how this story ends from the beginning he couldn’t have planned out what happens in each season(year) ahead of time so it wouldn’t find itself stretching for 3 decades???
c’mon now!
stahp it. don’t even defend 3 decades of filler fodder. he’s obviously juicing this.
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lemmie put it to you this way…if One Piece wasn’t so popular…not just in japan but around the world…do you really think he’d be stretching it out for 3 decades?
ok.
and Gear 4th…is such a disappointment. I’m just gonna nickname it "Hulk Luffy"
apparently Oda gets his inspiration from the Avengers summer movies.
smh.
As I’ve stated before, while I love me some One Piece, I wish Oda had more of a kill-your-darlings mentality. Fishman Island was overstuffed, Punk Hazard felt pretty well-paced until everyone ran from the gas for several chapters. Dressrosa REALLY could’ve used some judicious slicing.
Like, again, the Gear 4 bits of the fight. I think part of why it doesn’t feel as urgent and fast-paced is that we spend at least as much time away from the fight as we spend looking at it.
Some plot points could even have been kept in a less stretched-out way. Oda could’ve easily put the king’s speech in along with Luffy’s action scenes, spent fewer pages on said speech, and it would’ve flowed better. We’ve also been told twice that Zoro and Kinemon are going to stop the strings. Oda could’ve just skipped right to them encountering Franky, who gets the same idea. Whole lotta small things that would’ve added up to a shorter story.
Well, yeah. Which is why I’m saying “so far” Everything’s gonna come together at the end, and poneglyphs are going to be a huge part of it, but AT THE MOMENT, poneglyphs aren’t the reason why they sailed into the New World.
At least One Piece is still coming out 3 weeks of a month on average. Compare that with Berserk which has been ongoing since the mid 80’s and there hasn’t been a chapter released in months, and before that it was almost a year. At the pace Berserk is going, it’ll be another 30 years before he gets to the end. And he was already planning on it being another 20 years since he’s supposed to only be 1/3rd of the way through the story according to an interview of him 5 years ago or so. But without him actually releasing chapters, who knows when or if he’ll ever get to the end.
In regards to One Piece and the poneglyphs. They may be connected. Remembering White Beards declaration before his death he mentions that when someone finds one piece that the world will be thrown in an uproar and that the world government is doing everything it can to prevent that. So at the very least One Piece may be related to the void century.
Pretty sure Robin’s awakening would have to do with her manifesting whatever she wants with the fruit since it is the Hana Hana No Mi which means blossom. No reason it should be limited to just body parts. I think that she will have real wings by the time she awakens if she does.
I don’t follow the anime on the regular but the episode they do that exchange between Luffy and Doffy over Law’s body trading blows in one I hope they don’t fuck up.
Dunno if anyone’s brought this up already, but in regards to “Awakened” DF powers I think it’s safe to assume that Kuzan and Akainu used Awakened powers during their fight on Punk Hazard resulting in the permanent change of the island.
I agree about Beserk. I wish the creator would let the rest of the world in on what exactly is the hold up. I doubt its a family issue. maybe its a health issue. maybe just severe writer’s block. but regardless that fool needs to step it in high gear.
that manga is too damn good.
though, maybe he’s just…crazy. cuz i’ll never understand why he ordered the discontinuation of the anime. that anime would be huge by now if he hadn’t.