One Piece Thread: Gear 2nd!

Sanji was looking pimp in this chapter, I still get the feeling that one or more of the Strawhats won’t get a proper match up in this arc and I wouldn’t be shocked if it was Sanji.

Zoro and spoilers

[details=Spoiler] Is going to IMMEDIATELY challenge Kinemon the minute his kid is rescued. I was wondering where the sword person for Zoro to fight was and it looks like it is the samurai after all. Negro had a “I’m hungry for a new style” look at the end of the chapter, boy Kinemon doesn’t know what he started with that, I can cut flames talk. Should have just said magic.

Virgo laying the smack down physically and verbally on Law, but was that haki or could it be a devil fruit. And by grownups does this mean some Elder Stars World Government backed stuff or Kaido and some Emperor jazz?

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He used Color of Armaments on the stick he hit him with.

Kinemon has a pretty damn powerful style makes me wonder how tough are some of the guys in Wano if he can do stuff like that.Zoro and him shall definitely clash .

Virgo looks like a major threat.

End of the chapter has me smiling with excitement, why does OP have to be so good?

(I too support the idea of CP9 becoming bounty hunters after they trounced Very Good. Hmm…this gives me an idea…)

“Virgo”, eh? I figured it was someone we hadn’t seen or even heard of before, but I didn’t expect for it to be someone with a western Zodiac name. His name reminds that I’m vaguely disappointed none of the faux-centuars so far have been archers.

Virgin Power

[details=Spoiler]Hunh, so he can use haki on top of making Law just keel over like that? Crap. He seems quite strong just from that, even if it’s just some type of device, especially since I can’t tell whether his comment about where he came from is supposed to indicate teleportation, high level Soru or Geppou or outright flight; I guess it could also just indicate some other type of transport that has nothing to do with his skills, but it seems…unlikely given the nature of that island unless it’s like a submarine or something.

I’m surprised no one’s commented on Monet being a double agent as well. Even though Caesar seems aware that Law’s betrayed him by now, the guy can’t seem to catch a break. It would almost be sad if Caesar weren’t such an incredible bastard.[/details]

Somewhat disappointed that Caesar effortlessly put down Robin, Franky, Tashigi-Smoker AND Smoker-Tashigi mostly off panel. I can’t say I’m surprised, though.

The last part with the samurai more than made it up for that, though.

Oh, he’s definitely interested in him now judging by those last couple of pages.

I’d say it would give new meaning to “sword fight”…if that phrase didn’t already somewhat mean that.

Yeah, I wouldn’t really be surprised if most of the Strawhats actually didn’t get a “proper” match against non-Mooks. Between the Law team-up-and-stealth-betrayal, the various factions even before splitting, keeping the giant children safe, the body swaps and the fact that Caesar & his named mooks largely aren’t fighting through sheer force, Gastanets aside, it just seems really unlikely.

As for the samurai being “dumb” about revealing what he said, well, a) it’s not like he knows anything about Zoro (or the Strawhats in general) and b) given what he said earlier when creating the clothes, he seems to loathe “magick”; I wouldn’t be surprised if he disliked lying either. He probably wouldn’t mind fighting Zoro anyway, just as long as his son is actually safe and they don’t have to worry about anything or anyone else interfering.

Meanwhile, I’m still trying to figure out whether he “just” has a clothing/armor Paramecia or if, like I think someone on Arlong Park pointed out, he actually has a (Mythical?) Tanuki Zoan.

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Sanji was looking pimp in this chapter, I still get the feeling that one or more of the Strawhats won’t get a proper match up in this arc and I wouldn’t be shocked if it was Sanji.
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I was surprised to see that Nami’s body packed so much power, I guess skill > power even when possessing another body. Same with his knowledge and usage of Haki, I didn’t think Oda would be so explicit with its usage for the non-Luffy/ Zoro Mugiwaras.

Well that’s why not even the World Government tries to test them. Kinemon is even more awesome than I expected though.

Methinks he’s definitely a DF user too, maybe some kind of gravity power from the looks of it. What I found very interesting is how he was able to imbue his bamboo stick with Haki, and also create the same armor effect as Luffy’s armaments Haki. Before Luffy, I don’t remember armaments ever manifesting itself in such a physical form, only as an invisible shield like Rayleigh did.

Zoro had the same smile I used to have when seeing a random good player in my arcade playing MVC2. :badboy:

zorro lookin like he wished he had a sharigan.

btw when did translators start changing zorro to zoro?

kinda thrown off by virgo…wasnt expecting a major random villain like that.

Ceaser seems to have Used sleeping gas on them .Ceaser reminds a bit of buggy and doflo

I love it when my boy Sanji gets to shine, hope he gets more; I’m also wondering if Sanji pushing Nami’s body to the limit like that (lol) could unlock some potential for Nami in the future.

Virgo is a fucking beast, like White Shadow I also suspect gravity powers; The effect he had on Law and the cut of steak stuck to his face are almost dead giveaways.

Zoro is on his way to becoming MegaMan with the swords :rofl:

Wait was that a piece of steak on his face smh

Whatever was on his face was silly as fuck.

Gravity is blackbeard’s power. Darkness is gravity. I thought he was pretty clear about that.

anyone else think its Law’s father/brother?

I like to think of BB’s power as more of a black hole kind of thing, not necessarily gravity. It’s the only thing i could think of for Virgo right now given the clues, unless it’s some color of the conqueror shit but then why is that thing (that I want to believe is steak) stuck to his face. Just speculation until more info is given, I could care less if I’m wrong.

Fuckin magnets.

Yeah I thought of that before, but Blackbeard is more of a void than actual gravitation, hence why he has to spread his influence rather than just create the attractive force. The properties of his fruit are more symbolic in nature rather than scientific.

It’s like saying Alvida’s and Kuma’s powers are the same just because they both can reflect things.

I though Shikki had the gravity ability locked down.

(I seriously don’t see why you guys are tripping off the “bit of steak” like Oda hasn’t designed goofy-looking characters before, including “serious” characters who have one goofy things that off about them.)

Gods, beyond this and the Avatar thread, I really wonder why people speculate from seemingly nowhere. Even observing WMG, I still don’t get the wild leaps that people make.

How did we go to “he has what looks like steak on the left side of his face” to “ZOMG? He has gravity powers?!”? Hell, how did we even get to gravity powers in the first place?

…Black holes aren’t gravity?

…You would indeed care if you were wrong?

Yeah, Blackbeard’s abilities are more like a void, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he always has to “spread” his influence. After all, he drew Ace to him at least once when he was fighting without covering Ace in “dawkness” first. It would also explain why he can apparently take more than one power: he’s “empty”.

Similarly, it wouldn’t the first time that a Paramecia (theoretically) got outdone by a Logia.

Of course, that said, it would mean that Swamp and Darkness Logia are even more alike with Swamp (seemingly) inferior, though I guess kinda isn’t “new” either with Fire and Lava/Magma being the same, but Fire being inferior (and vulnerable) to Lava/Magma.

Except that Alvida doesn’t actively reflect anything. She just pseudo-negates them since they “slip” off her. Kuma actively repels things, even if they’re abstract.

(Hmmm…I wonder if this means that high-level Sube Sube powers would could make “abstracts” slip off her, like aging. Could she be immortal? Or just look young as long as she lives since she would still age internally? Hmm…)

A better example would be how Buggy and Very Good basically have the same fruit, but very different weaknesses and strengths, i.e. Buggy’s immune to edged trauma but vulnerable to blunt force and Very Good’s (presumably) immune to blunt force but likely vulnerable to edged trauma.

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Yeah, Blackbeard’s abilities are more like a void, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he always has to “spread” his influence. After all, he drew Ace to him at least once when he was fighting without covering Ace in “dawkness” first. It would also explain why he can apparently take more than one power: he’s “empty”.[

Similarly, it wouldn’t the first time that a Paramecia (theoretically) got outdone by a Logia.

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See how casually Virgo exerts his ability? He’s using his power’s (whatever it may be) natural influence without any special summon or anything. Blackbeard’s ability is Darkness as such he can be treated as void, the aspect of his ability allows him to draw things towards his body from a distance. Secondly, Blackholebeard had to create a vortex by which to draw Ace/Whitebeard/Luffy in, which shows that he’s simply summoning an aspect of his power when he sees fit.

It’s the difference between how Crocodile’s Suna Suna no Mi sucks moisture out of a person when using his Barchan, and a hypothetical Paramecia power that can naturally suck moisture out of anything upon touching.

To be more specific they both can deflect things. Both run in asymptotic parallels in that they deflect objects but aren’t necessarily the same thing.

We discussed this before a while back; I think I mentioned something like her using Armaments Haki + Sube Sube to bend light or create Susan Storm forcefields and such.