One Piece Thread: Gear 2nd!

[The_Damned]

(Hey, a mercy kill’s a mercy kill.)

Hmmm…this chapter was…disheartening for a few reasons. I too didn’t expect for Fishman Island to have a population that big or that they would pull something so shady.

[spoiler=I too was under the impression…]That Vander Decken killed Otohime. I’m still kind of hoping that he is responsible–perhaps he’s responsible for endangering the Tenryuubito’s ship. I mean, as much as I know that the Tenryuubito are massive enough assholes to attack someone that’s trying to help them, I’d rather they not be responsible for all of the ills of the New World so far, especially back-to-back-to-back flashback-wise.
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It’s nice to know that Jinbei wasn’t directing Arlong to do what he did, even if it doesn’t really exonerate him either. Arlong’s incarceration for what a seemingly lengthy period of time seems to at least make things a bit more sensible when it comes to seemingly huge power gap between him and Jinbei. Not that one didn’t already exist.

Hmmm…I have to wonder what happened to Aladdin and the rest of Jinbei’s crew if gave up his Shichibukai title voluntarily and got thrown in Impel Down…

Fun Fact!: Humans have more neck vertebrae (6) than a giraffe (5)!

I have a vague sense that I knew this already.

Never really thought of it that way, I just think Oda would relegate one true textbook pirate-Yonkou and give him the most badass/fearsome fruit his imagination can muster.

Ah, I see.

I actually don’t think any of the Yonkou (save for Negrobeard) will be a Logia. I think the Logia prowess is mostly a Marine trait, since they have the best access to rare fruits, not saying it’s impossible for worldly pirates on getting them, but I don’t think it’s an accident that all 3 Admirals have super powerful Logias.

Oh, it definitely isn’t an accident, especially since Crocodile was a Shichibukai and the government was (and still is) unaware that Eneru even existed/exists.

This just makes me wonder further how someone like Caribou got a hold of a Logia…

Well Kaku actually turned the long neck into a huge advantage. With Kami-e he made his neck transform and move in very unnatural ways to avoid Zoro’s attacks. Male giraffes are also quite violent during mating season. lol

True. It’s still a “weakness” that he has the compensate for and that he wouldn’t perhaps be able to compensate for without having known Rokushiki.

I’m still a believer of the theory that Zoan fruits do bring forth their inner animal instincts into the beings they inhabit. Lucci would habitually lick blood off himself even in his normal state, showing either his sadism or that his carnivorous fruit enhanced his overall demeanor. Jyabura was a trickster based on fables like Little Red Riding Hood, etc…

I wonder if this means that Kaidou will be an avaricious son of a bitch if he does indeed have a (Western) Dragon Zoan fruit.

Whitebeard fruit is stated to be the strongest because it’s the only fruit confirmed to truly be able to destroy the planet (as mentioned by Sengoku). It’s power was felt worldwide and localized it changed an entire landscape with ease.

I don’t think it’s capable of destroying the whole planet since it’s not like Sengoku is immune to exaggeration. I’m not trying to deny that it wasn’t monstrously powerful; I was more merely pondering if Kuma could do something “weird” like reject/deflect the very vibrations before the Gura Gura user could do anything with them considering that the three Admirals were able to deflect one of Whitebeard’s waves otherwise.

Nikyu Nikyu no Mi is a ridiculously powerful fruit and it borders on near impossible to counter (unless seastone or Haki can bypass it somehow) but it doesn’t possess the sheer destructive power Gura Gura no Mi had.

Agreed. Sheer destructive power isn’t the only thing that I’m interested in, though.

And as for Trafalgar Law, I’m glad you brought him up because he’s still waiting on Luffy to head to the New World. I hope he’s realized Haki as well, so he can use his fruit in really cool ways.

“Room… Color of Armaments… Bomb Shelter!”

According to the Wiki, in one of the games, he’s already been shown to be able to make “room” for himself to block things, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that gets shown in canon whenever we see him fight again on-screen.

Oh and poor Strawberry’s broken bone hair, it might take months to heal properly.

I have to wonder if it was Fisher that beat the crap out of him and his hair or Jinbei.

[El_Chupa_Negro]

Its pretty damn sad to see folks telling Otohime that we tired of these speeches.Thats seriously sad to see.I’ve seen it time and time again round my way (black community) when people are just so fed up with the bullshit they pretty much say I aint even tryna hear this shit today because it won’t change tomorrow.

[kryonik]

Its pretty damn sad to see folks telling Otohime that we tired of these speeches.Thats seriously sad to see.I’ve seen it time and time again round my way (black community) when people are just so fed up with the bullshit they pretty much say I aint even tryna hear this shit today because it won’t change tomorrow.

Now I’m sad.

[arcelonious]

One Piece 625 is up.

[Master_Chibi]

Man I am loving that double page spread with the Sea Kings.

AWESOME

[The_Damned]

(Seeing Vander Decken again makes me wonder what would happen if he threw someone that’s he’s targeted at themselves. Hmmm…)

And this particular flashback continues to mirror exactly what (black) people won’t (ever) do. Sigh. I don’t know whether I should be sad or amazed that a highly public Japanese figure realizes this, though those aren’t mutually exclusive.

Otohime

Spoiler

I’m extremely surprised she not only survived this chapter, but seemed to get something done by talking with the Tenryuubito. As much as I hadn’t wanted them to be behind her death, I was totally expecting them to at least be related to it, but she survived the gunshot wound too. I guess she’ll be dead by next chapter, which actually saddens me a bit now since she’s finally growing on me.

Man I am loving that double page spread with the Sea Kings.

AWESOME

Speaking of which, goddamn does the size of the sea life in One Piece still freak me the fuck out. It’s like some shit you’d expect to see in Hunter X Hunter.

It makes complete sense why Vander Decken is interested in Shirahoshi now. I thought that he was just a creepy cradle robber who wanted to become royalty. The no pedo angle is much better. I wonder if he even actually cares for her–I highly doubt it with him throwing lethal axes at her.

[devastator]

I’m starting to really really like Otohime. Who knows how many years its gonna take for Oda to get there but when the Tenryuubito finally go down its gonna be one of the best reading experiences I will ever have. I hate those bastards so much.

[Wellman]

Damn, after this chapter, one has to wonder who indeed was the bigger badass. Fisher Tiger or Queen Otohime?

My opinion, it ain’t looking good for Big Brother Tai in this match up.

[white_shadow]

(Seeing Vander Decken again makes me wonder what would happen if he threw someone that’s he’s targeted at themselves. Hmmm…)

lol :looney:

Otohime

Spoiler

I’m extremely surprised she not only survived this chapter, but seemed to get something done by talking with the Tenryuubito. As much as I hadn’t wanted them to be behind her death, I was totally expecting them to at least be related to it, but she survived the gunshot wound too. I guess she’ll be dead by next chapter, which actually saddens me a bit now since she’s finally growing on me.

Yeah I feel the same way. I think her heightened level Colors of Observation might aid her in being persuasive. The elder Tenryuubitos might also not be 100% assholes like their offspring. (just 99.999% assholes).

God I wanted that snot-nosed punk to die so badly, even though I knew he wouldn’t.

It makes completely sense why Vander Decken is interested in Shirahoshi now. I thought that he was just a creepy cradle robber who wanted to become royalty. The no pedo angle is much better. I wonder if he even actually cares for her–I highly doubt it with him throwing lethal axes at her.

Vander Decken doesn’t care about her, he just wants to complete his destiny/fantasy- and will kill her if he can’t fulfill it.

I still wish Oda will elaborate on Fishman karate later. I guess when Luffy and crew finally have their Fishman showdown it might happen.

lol

Spoiler

Still laughing about Hodi getting his ass whooped in one felt slash.

[CaptainKishimoto]

I’m a little surprised we didn’t get to see the meeting. Hopefully they’ll show it or at least reference what happened during (seems to be too big of an event to not show).

[Keits]

I’m pretty ready for the conclusion of this super long flashback. We waited a long time to get luffy+crew back together, and now this flashback feels like time away too early. I’m interested, and its interesting, and I love Jinbei, but yeah… finish up!

[d3v]

Seeing Otohime go is gonna be a tearjerker that’s for sure.

[voodazz]

Yeah, the queen is making Fisher Tiger look like a punk.

I always wondered when we were going to see someone who could control the Sea Kings. I thought for sure Jimbei would be one of them, but after seeing his WTF expression when Princess Scardy Cat does her aquaman routine, those hopes were dashed.

Judging by the noble passing out and foaming at the mouth is this ability somehow emperor’s disposition haki?

Man, talk about a waste of a potentially broken ability unless Scardy Cat does some serious leveling up!

[Wellman]

^
Nah, I think I don’t think that was emperor’s disposition, that was just him being scared shitless.

Otherwise, you’d have to say Usopp used it on Perona back in Thriller Bark. Although a long personal theory of mine is that he is unconsciously using it to absorb damage.

[white_shadow]

Otherwise, you’d have to say Usopp used it on Perona back in Thriller Bark. Although a long personal theory of mine is that he is unconsciously using it to absorb damage.

Well Color of Armaments Haki, but yeah I’ve thought about that myself. He’s survived stuff like getting hit with a 2 ton bat repeatedly and fell off the top of Enies Lobby and survived.

Kuina fell down a flight of stairs once and Critical hit! IT’S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

[Unreallystic]

I didn’t like the chapter.

It wasn’t bad, it’s just that the flashback feels a bit longer than needed…it’s long to try and paint the details a bit better to add a touch of more ‘depth of personality’ and weight, but I’m not sure how ‘needed’ it really is in the scheme of things. We’ve taken what 6 weeks to cover something that three weeks would have done just as effectively. Yes I’d like for the main story to progress more eand thats part of my ‘frustration’ with the flashback, but I do think its longer than need be.

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[The_Damned]

(Pretty sure this chapter will be over by next week.)

It’s only been 5 weeks, really, given that one of those six weeks was just Jump as a whole taking a break, hence why we were able to “discuss” the chapter where Fisher Tiger died for two weeks. I agree that it could have perhaps been shorter–I thought it would only be four chapters at most, but what CaptainKishimoto pointed out makes me think that this flashback is going to be particularly important in the future. So not only does Oda have to explain the backstory of two different people who died, but also have to set up something that will assuredly get mentioned again the future (unless it gets negated next chapter) and explain Vander Decken and Shirahoshi’s histories as well.

However, yes, I shall join you in hoping that it’s over by time next chapter ends. I honestly don’t see how it wouldn’t be at this point with Vander Decken around and Shirahoshi already age 6.

[white_shadow]

I have a feeling the flashback will be concluded mid-chapter and then the current happenings will occur as planned. I think once this flashback is over everything we’ve seen about Fishman Island will gain a whole new perspective.

~In Oda We Trust!~

[Unreallystic]

Oh, I’m sure there is a point, its not really filter, I do ‘trust’ Oda, but I’m not a fan of the length of this part…its sort of mid-fight - so we’ve been in suspense for far too long and have completley let ‘go’ of the current situation.

And long term, when Luffy is close to realizing his goal, I’m sure this whole fishman perspective wil lbe one of his ‘things’…and more than ever I believe a fishman will join the cast (not sure who exactly, but thats how it feels)

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[kryonik]

Its just been a while since we’ve seen the straw hats in “action”.