Ryu got a new move? He got a pretty big nerf on his MP and HP SRK, but that’s all I know.
Matter of fact, my early thoughts on SSF4:
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181684&p=8511573&viewfull=1#post8511573
Rufio! Rufio! Ruf-i-O!!!
Hakan is a oil loving ******. Was the Capcom staff drunk when he was created.
I was under the impression that he got back his Mule Kick with wall-bounce property. Perhaps that was just a rumor I’d heard…
Yeah, so far reports are that ryu did NOT get mule kick back.
LOL Guile did get down + taunt to put on his sunglasses though.
Makes you wonder what the holy fuck capcom was thinking…
“Um yeah, lets take a character with a history of glory and ruin him in SF4, then when we have a chance to make SMALL changes to him to fix his main issues, we’ll ignore that and spend time giving him a useless taunt that does nothing”.
I want to punch Ono in the dick right now.
LOL at everyone thinking this game is worse off.
Everyone, I mean EVERYONE has said super >>> sf4.
Also there are really only 2 joke characters. Rufus and Hakan. 2 out of like 36? ITS FUCKING STREET FIGHTER THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN JOKES. I dont consider Dan a joke as much anymore cause hes just always bad and a SF staple.
And Mike if your really gonna make TvC your main game, thats fine. Come super I probably wont be touching that game anymore.
Seriously, no one still knows enough about characters like Gen and Guile. Guile is built around normal moves and the word is that his normals are all better and or stronger. That helps him big time.
Gen: who knows. We probably gotta wait until someone like Yeb can actually sit down with him.
Also Ryu and Sagat are NOT that nerfed. What they changed was what was super bullshit about them: trade dp into ultra. GONE ARE TRADES. FUCK YES.
Vega’s claw stays on longer, thats pretty big imo. His normals are pretty good. He has an overhead now and a lot better of an ultra.
From what I am just reading super is going to be so much better. I cant believe them adding one more silly character really turns you off from the whole game like that yall.
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So, I know I took a huge shit on Hakan, mostly because I HATE his super and ultra (really, all his specials are stupid) but his actual gameplay looks like he might be fun, if you can get past his horrible looking special moves:
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As for me thinking the game is worse…its not that I think the game is worse, its that I’m super disappointed with many of the final details right now.
I was worried they would focus on the 3s and new characters and neglect the characters like Guile and Claw that truly NEED improvements…and it appears they may have done exactly that.
I was very pleasantly surprised to see Rose get huge improvements…but it feels arbitrary to me…why Rose? Why not Guile or Claw? Why not adjust ELF a bit so he can not have to rely on gimmicks and RSF to be competitive?
I DO like the actual character model for Hakan, I think he looks amazing…but then they ruin it for me with his dumb ass Ultra/super moves.
Sucks that Ken didn’t get a new move. But if they made the small changes he needed like Akuma’s sweep, faster dash, better frame advantage on tatsu combos, then I’ll probably still play him a bit.
I’m pretty excited about Ibuki, she looks kickass. Chun’s also going to be sweet with her new ultra. Too bad Fei and Cammy are going to be garbage tier, though.
Hakan looks fucking ridiculously awesome. He’s got a powerup move like Shun Di’s drinks in VF, two really good ultras, a fast, full-screen slide, a command grab with ridiculous range, and lots more. His character model is really well done and so over the top. The fact that he’s a really homo-erotic Arab is another huge plus.
James, I hope you’re right about the first impressions of old characters being off. If Guile and Ken are exactly the same except for new ultras, I’d be really surprised.
Haha scott has spoken!
So yeah, we really do not know about all the subtle changes to characters so relax yall.
Keep in mind this was only a few players with the game for only a couple hours and many were drunk.
Also I hope yall start liking the “HERE I CUM” ultra. Gonna be happening allllllllll day.
For realsies, man, super is giving me a major bone. I’m going to play Hakan all day and cries of “OMFG ***” are only going to make me STRONGAR
Also: language filter makes me sad.
Here’s hoping for the best.
ITS TIME TO OIL UP, SCOTT!
But yeah when hes oiled up his properties change completely. Sounds really interesting.
HERE I CUM!
Fuck, Hakan is making me want to learn VF5 and play Shun Di.
Dude, the first day that we’re all playing Super together… HOLY SHIT IT’S GOING TO BE SO DUMB
So are we in agreement that you get Hakan and I get Dudley then James? ;p
But yea, I don’t want ANYONE to count out Super before it comes out. If you give it a month and still don’t like it, then fine. But at least give the game time before you swear it off.
Who knows, god forbid it, but Super could end up being ass, and all the serious players go back to SF4 haha. Can you imagine in 3 years everyone is like “Man fuck SSF4, if you want some real Street Fighter play SF4.”
I really, really hope that never happens though. Like, really.
BWahahahaha!
Nah im still hungry for Duds.
I just wanna learn Hakan (as well as pretty much every character) for shits and giggles.
LOL the jizz jokes aren’t going to stop for a while are they?
At least they made his character model look dope…and this idea where he oils up and gets WAY better range on everything is interesting too. It may lead to some neat situations where if he gets a chance to oil up, certain characters essentially have to evade him until it wears off.
One thing that I forgot to comment on is this notion that everyone EXCEPT seth got their time to LV2 focus reduced. I’m not sure how to feel about that yet…as a guy who plays chun and dictator, focus fishing is already pretty hard for me to get around…if crumples are that much easier now…I’m not sure to regard that change as positive overall or not?
Focusing was IMO kinda weak overall in sf4.
Speeding them up makes them much more viable and should increase offensive abilities. I think its a good change. Good defense was just way better than a good offense in sf4. Im glad they are keeping true to their word and making Super much more offensive.
Also did yall here that Rogs dash punches are now UNTHROWABLE? That right there was one of the few changes that made me go 0_o
Interesting, I’ll have to think about that.
To me, it was more a problem of people focus fishing on the defense that gave me headaches…but I’m sure that is MY problem not the game’s problem.
I will say that Kikosho is going to kick ass, and yall better get ready to see that shit often…
And yes, I did hear about rush punch (dash punch? which one or is it all of them?) now having throw invulnerability. Clearly as someone who kinda hates boxer, that worries me a bit…but since it was rare that I was actually able to throw dash punches, I guess its not a big deal.
As chun, rather than throw them, I would usually use low forward to make them whiff.
Chun is going to be top5 imo.
She is now Rufus lite!
I take offense to that.
